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Re: uunet as a contact for the LPF smacks of favoritism.

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From: Hwa-Jin Bae
Date: Sat, 04 Feb 1995 08:24
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In article <3gtrbn$fo7@hermes.synopsys.com>,
Joe Buck <jbuck@synopsys.com> wrote:
>You've decided what the spirit of GNU is on your own, noticed that FSF
>doesn't necessarily comply with your interpretation, and then accused
>them of hypocrisy.  You have not yet demonstrated an inconsistency or
>a contradiction.
>

i have not decided what the spirit of GNU is on my own.  it is clear
that GNU/FSF stands for free flow of information.  if you want to argue
that this is wrong interpretation, you may.   

>We're missing your point, if you have one, because you're not expressing
>it consistently, and you seem to misunderstand a number of things.  For
>example, delaying releases, or preferentially giving software to some
>folks before others.  FSF does it all the time.  It's called private alpha
>It's one thing to give a hairy new alpha release to someone
>whose hand I'm committed to holding if they have any trouble; it's another
>thing to spread it far and wide.
>testing.  

it's one thing to alpha-release something.  it's quite another to
purposefully do what cygnus does.  i have confirmation of this from cygnus
personnel, their current workers.  cygnus isn't simply delaying
distribution of some of their software for alpha-testing purpose. they're
doing it for marketing, promotion, and money.  i think they need not resort
to doing so, but they do.

>You are the one who has attacked Cygnus.  It's up to you to make a case
>against them, if you have one.  You have a lot of nerve accusing others
>of lacking the ability to think critically and clearly, when you don't
>seem able to express yourself that well.  Or are you making "thinks
>critically and clearly" a synonym for "agrees with me"?

you consider my criticism of their inconsistency as "attacks".
obviously, there is  a reason behind it, and i think that it's
understandable.  but you should also realize that no matter how you deny
it, the fact remains that certain practices by cygnus are against
free flow of information.

>
>(It's kind of funny accusing someone working for a traditional software
>company of being a "GNU born-again" -- you should pay more attention).
>

and who would that be?  i certainly did not accuse you of being a 
GNU born-again.  perhaps you should check the thread hierarchy and 
attribution again.  besides, one does not have to work for FSF or cygnus to
be a gnu born-again.  or do you disagree on this too?

peace,
hwajin
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Subject: Re: uunet as a contact for the LPF smacks of favoritism.
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