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Re: Cygnus (was uunet as a contact for the LPF smacks of favoritism)

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From: Hwa-Jin Bae
Date: Sat, 04 Feb 1995 08:31
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In article <SHEBS.95Feb3130349@andros.cygnus.com>,
Stan Shebs <shebs@cygnus.com> wrote:
>
>Terms like "spirit of" are rather subjective, and can be twisted
>around any way you like.  

true.  the "spirit of" in this case, however, is very clear.
free flow of information, no hoarding of information (source code) --
an aspect of GNU/FSF spirit, in question here.  this is not too
unclear, is it?

>Some people criticize Cygnus for respecting
>the confidentiality wishes of our customers, or for using the Berkeley
>library rather than glibc, or for not dropping everything else and
>working only on the Hurd, or simply because we're making a profit
>(yes, we really get complaints about that sometimes).  Cygnus is
>committed to free software, but that means much more than just GNU; we
>do Kerberos, we do Berkeley code, we do some public-domain software.
>We're also committed to running a viable business.  

i am not criticizing cygnus for these things in this thread.
perhaps you should go find out what the issue was first if you haven't yet.
in any case, any criticism can be taken negatively or positively.
one can take particular criticism as an "attack", or one can assume that
it is a legitimate concern.

>I know that some
>people think that working on free software and running a business are
>fundamentally incompatible, and that therefore we must be hypocritical
>for claiming to do so; but I think they're wrong.
>

i do not believe that working on free software and running a business
are incompatible.  i do believe that cygnus does not need to resort to some
of the things they do (mentioned many times before in this thread), in
order to turn a profit.
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Subject: Re: Cygnus (was uunet as a contact for the LPF smacks of favoritism)
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