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Article #72048Re: The cost of SW patents
From: Joe Buck
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1992 02:10
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1992 02:10
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In article <1992Apr23.001851.10636@algor2.algorists.com> jeffrey@algor2.algorists.com (Jeffrey Kegler) writes: > My understanding (I am not a lawyer) is that if you simply wish to > defend against patents, you clearly establish prior art, and this will > invalidate any attempts to patent your invention. It's a lot cheaper, > too. In article <JTW.92Apr22213301@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> jtw@lcs.mit.edu (John Wroclawski) writes: >It's important to understand that this is true in theory, but not >necessarily in practice. The PTO's definition of prior art is strongly >biased towards "previously issued patents". This is no surprise: the >patent database is what they know. It's well-indexed, organized the >way the PTO wants it to be, and the model works OK in fields where >most important advances are patented. John makes many other good points in his article. Unfortunately, small companies are generally telling the truth when they say they are getting software patents for defensive purposes; at the rate that software patents are increasing, you soon won't be able to play unless you have something to deal with at the cross-licensing negotiation table. Given this, I don't think that organizations like LPF should be hostile to someone for the mere act of getting a software patent (even though I think they should be abolished). The heat shouldn't be turned up unless an organization attempts to get other products withdrawn from the market by suing for patent infringement. In fact (though I expect not to be listened to on this one), I think that FSF should get software patents and engage in cross-licensing agreements; given their general approach, I suspect that organizations like IBM would be willing to play. Once Unisys found themselves stepping on an FSF patent, the most prudent course for them might just be to cross-license the LZW patent for whatever FSF patent they needed access to. While this is a worse world than a world without software patents, it might be the best possible world if the GATT treaty (with its mandatory software patents) goes through. The proposed FSF policy would go like this: 1. Anyone would be free to use FSF patents in any freely redistributable code (freely redistributable meaning GPL or the more permissive agreements like BSD's or X11's). 2. Commercial organizations could use FSF patents in proprietary software if and only if they sign a cross-licensing agreement permitting FSF to distribute programs using any patent belonging to that organization, that is, access to all FSF patents in exchange to access to all Company XYZ software patents. -- Joe Buck jbuck@ohm.berkeley.edu
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,c49ad45ad13bf04b X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-04-22 19:10:37 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!ames!agate!forney.berkeley.edu!jbuck From: jbuck@forney.berkeley.edu (Joe Buck) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: The cost of SW patents Message-ID: <t56atINN93b@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 23 Apr 92 02:10:37 GMT References: <703867994snx@crynwr.com> <1992Apr23.001851.10636@algor2.algorists.com> <JTW.92Apr22213301@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 51 NNTP-Posting-Host: forney.berkeley.edu