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Article #73905Re: NJ wants to license programmers
From: Andy Wessels
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1991 14:05
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1991 14:05
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In article <59257@nigel.ee.udel.edu>, duzan@cis.udel.edu (gdtltr@limbo.org (The Befuddled One)) writes: |> In article <1991Jul19.225454.816@exurchn1.ericsson.se> exudnw@exurchn1.ericsson.se (Dave Williams) writes: |> =>I think it's time we all banded together and required our local, state, and |> =>national reperesentatives be licensed. Assemblywoman Kalik could then be |> =>sued for malpractice, among other things. |> => |> The main problem is that of who gives out the licenses. We would need |> someone to insure that those who give out the licenses are qualified to do |> so, i.e. a license to give out licenses. Thus we have a recurrence relation. |> Where do we terminate the relation? |> Engineering is moving towards requiring practicing engineers to be registered witht the state(s) that they practice in (though not required today) It would be analagous (sp?) to the bar exam for lawyers or the boards for doctors. This is a way for the state to help assure that the people practicing are competent and not outside of there realm of competency. This type of exam is a _professional_ certification. Programmers are a _professional_ group of people. There is software that is very difficult and has the potential effect of taking several lives. Mentioned has been medical software and software that is life-critical. What about cars? The wrongly programmed software can have detrimental effects, and the amount of hardware and software is not going down. What about industrial situations? I have heard horror stories about an industrial controller that went haywire because the 'professional' was not able to correctly write interrupt driven software; compound that problem by writing it in assembly. As a final example, consider aviation electronics. Very simply put, if it fails, you die. If there were an error in the software of the primary computer, so would it be in the backups. Before I get flamed to death (asbestos suit being donned at this minute :-), please consider that there may be lives involved in software. The actions could be devistating. The idea that NJ wants to convey is some sort of _professional_ standards, based solely upon what I have read in this newsgroup. There intentions are to promote solid software, and not screwed up hack jobs written by fly-by-night operations. Consider that Disk-Jockeys working at stations over 100 watts _must_ be liscenced by the FCC. As the transmitter power goes up, so do the requiremnents. And the DJ may not have anything to do with the station outside of his little room. andy wessels@thor.cc.nd.edu
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,624fa0d9d693a21f X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-07-22 08:20:10 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!thor.cc.nd.edu!wessels From: wessels@thor.cc.nd.edu (Andy Wessels) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: NJ wants to license programmers Message-ID: <1991Jul22.140553.24030@news.nd.edu> Date: 22 Jul 91 14:05:53 GMT References: <1991Jul19.160827.876@watson.ibm.com> <1991Jul19.225454.816@exurchn1.ericsson.se> <59257@nigel.ee.udel.edu> Sender: news@news.nd.edu (USENET News System) Reply-To: wessels@thor.cc.nd.edu (Andy Wessels) Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame Lines: 40