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Article #73906Re: Patent on a standard-byte order for intermachine communication
From: John Burton
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1991 14:18
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1991 14:18
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In article <1991Jul22.013710.1418@visix.com> amanda@visix.com (Amanda Walker) writes:
>minar@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>
> Doesn't ftp use a standard byte ordering scheme
> down on the TCP/IP level to communicate its information?
>
>Nope. FTP is all ASCII-based. Now, it's possible that printable ASCII
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>numbers fall under the patent, since they impose a MSB-first byte order...
>
>:-P.
>--
>Amanda Walker amanda@visix.com
>Visix Software Inc. ...!uunet!visix!amanda
>--
>"Clearly, the solution here is to hunt down the author and kill him.
> I believe this solution to be language independent. And so much fun..."
> --Garry Hodgson, remarking on a code fragment in comp.object
HUH??? Perhaps I misunderstand...Doesn't ASCII-based imply character
based? FTP can transfer ASCII files just fine, and does the
appropriate character translations needed to fit the appropriate
machine (i.e. convert line/record terminators from one machine to
those used by another machine). It also has a binary mode which is
used to transfer files exactly as is (i.e. NO translations). This has
nothing to do with ASCII... I don't think FTP uses a standard byte
ordering on the *data* (i.e. data is just a stream of bytes, there are
no integers or reals to be translated), but the *control* information
(packet headers, counters, etc) that are transfered between the two
machines quite possible would have to have a standard byte order, so
that when machine A sends an integer to machine B describing the file
to be transfered, machine B will understand what machine A is talking
about...
John
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,9a4c815047ed049b X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-07-22 08:22:10 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!news.larc.nasa.gov!asdsun.larc.nasa.gov!burton From: burton@asdsun.larc.nasa.gov (John Burton) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: Patent on a standard-byte order for intermachine communication Message-ID: <1991Jul22.141830.8764@news.larc.nasa.gov> Date: 22 Jul 91 14:18:30 GMT References: <jim.679871441@piggy> <m0k1lfO-0000XZC@vishnu.reed.edu> <1991Jul22.013710.1418@visix.com> Sender: news@news.larc.nasa.gov (USENET Network News) Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA Lines: 47