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Article #74252Re: c++ vs ada results
From: John Burton
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1991 13:22
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1991 13:22
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In article <1991Jun18.042950.4473@netcom.COM>, jls@netcom.COM (Jim Showalter) writes: |> Sorry. I retract my statement that when it comes to compilers you |> get what you pay for, at least as it concerns the particular case |> of GNU. I've received nothing but praise (usually |> stated quite angrily) via e-mail for the GNU family. I find this, |> by the way, to be totally bizarre, since it seemingly flies in |> the face of 6,000 years of free-market economic theory. Why something |> free would be quite bug free and would have great support in contrast |> to something that costs money is completely beyond me--were this true |> in general one would expect cheap cars to be better than expensive |> ones, and free cars to be best of all. Anybody care to enlighten me? |> |> Incidentally, I'm curious about the scalability of the GNU stuff to |> projects of significant scope and complexity. Do they work as well |> on 2 MSLOC projects as they do on 5 KSLOC programs? |> |> >It's been my experience that the vendors of compilers *never* share their |> >bug list with customers. |> |> The compiler vendor I used to work for not only published known |> bugs but known workarounds as well. If this is not common practice, |> it jolly well ought to be. |> -- |> *** LIMITLESS SOFTWARE, Inc: Jim Showalter, jls@netcom.com, (408) 243-0630 **** |> *Proven solutions to software problems. Consulting and training on all aspects* |> *of software development. Management/process/methodology. Architecture/design/* |> *reuse. Quality/productivity. Risk reduction. EFFECTIVE OO usage. Ada/C++. * Actually its not as bizarre as it sounds when you understand that: A) despite what people think, ours is not truely a free market economy. It might have started out that way, but it was legislated/litigated to death. Your "6000 years of free-market economic theory" doesn't apply. B) Companies in business to make money will do just that, make money... In the software industry a fair percentage of the money coming in goes to support lawyers, either to sue someone for copyright/patent infringement or protect themselves from such a lawsuit. (unfortunately the software industry has a tendency to litigate, not inovate.) This money must come from somewhere (of course it won't come from the profits or salaries of the executives :-) so what do you do? you cut back on two *major* sources of expense, pre-release testing and debugging... Don't point the finger *too* much at the programmers... they do what they can given their budget restraints... ahhh...enough babbling... John +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | John Burton | | G & A Technical Software | | jcburt@gatsibm.larc.nasa.gov | | jcburt@cs.wm.edu | | | | Disclaimer: Hey, what can I say...These are *my* views, not those | | of anyone else, be they employer, school, or government| +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,e54364a0ce166454 X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-06-19 11:33:19 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!news.larc.nasa.gov!asdsun.larc.nasa.gov!burton From: burton@asdsun.larc.nasa.gov (John Burton) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: c++ vs ada results Message-ID: <1991Jun19.132235.2449@news.larc.nasa.gov> Date: 19 Jun 91 13:22:35 GMT References: <1991Jun12.164741.412@news.larc.nasa.gov> <1991Jun12.201740.16463@netcom.COM> <NELSON.91Jun15224835@sun.clarkson.edu> <1991Jun18.042950.4473@netcom.COM> Sender: news@news.larc.nasa.gov (USENET Network News) Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA Lines: 57