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Article #707Re: The Bible is False (was: Morality of Bible)
From: FNO
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 23:55
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 23:55
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"Danie|_ Swan" <DAN@ZIONIST-HEADQUARTERS.com> wrote in message news:TH7od.198361$9b.92369@edtnps84... > In article <Sj0od.175168$df2.60004@edtnps89>, Me@home.ca says... > > > >Its an important distinction. Many atheists are pretty nasty to those > >"narrow-minded theists" as theists can be to dissenters from their faith. > >Only those who aren't really sure couldn't really care what your beliefs > >are. > > bullshit. I am sure and I don't give a crap whether you are or not. Soft > atheism (aka agnosticism) is for the weak. Oh wait, I just made a negative > judgement so that must mean I do give a crap, right? Not hardly. I LIKE the > fact that most people are stupid and inferior. > > There you go. Since you obviously view anyone who doesn't share you views as being stupid and inferior, you clearly do give a crap. Otherwise, you would have no measuring stick. You have just proven the point not argued against it. You have shown you beliefs to be no different than a fundamentalist theist; that someone who does not share your beliefs ( in the absence of proof) is inferior in some way. > > > I am a non-believer; not because I can say for can't say for certain > >one what or the other, but because I also am not sure one way or the other. > > Here's an excellent essay that I think demonstrates how lame your position is: > > http://www.airs.com/ian/essays/atheist/atheist.html > > > > >> Pascal's Wager has one inherent problem, what if the believer believes > >> in the wrong god? In other words, what will Allah do with Christians > >> and Jews in the hereafter? > >> > >I don't imagine He will care. But even if He does, a theist has MUCH better > >odds of winning; ie. better than zero > > Pascal's wager is bunk because it assumes that there is no cost to the organism > in harboring faith, when in fact it is costing him cognition in his life, which > he expends until his death, afterwhich there is no compelling evidence that his > existence will continue.. It's a fool's wager. > And there is no compelling evidence that his existence won't either. In addition, that assumes that cognition takes resources and is finite; in fact life-limited. There is no evidence of that either > The key to being atheist is to realize that most people function better as > superstitious twits, so it's better for the superior atheist to NOT try to > bully worship of god and magical-thinking away from these people. They are > much easier for the atheist to socially exploit if their beliefs are allowed to > remain intact. Of course that doesn't mean the atheist has to 'respect > differences', and allow himself to slide down to notions of 'social equality'. > The atheist should always be aware that the believer is inferior and deserving > of exploitation. Technically, the believer is literally begging to be > exploited by superior atheists. But atheists won't improve their lot in life > by driving these people crazy with existential angst. > I see. I didn't know that atheism was attached to amorality, and while many theists believe that no atheist can be moral, I have always refused to accept one is dependent on the other. Clearly that is not the case for all people.
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