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Newsgroups: can.general,ab.general,tor.general,winnipeg.general,
wpg.general,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Why ZHID Abortionists Kill Babies-FOR MILLION$!!

Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
and car theft in California and Oregon, the
well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
about all his ZHID fellow criminals and perverts.
Here is the latest.......

From: "kenmcvay@nazikor.orgy"
Subject: JEW GETS MILLIONS KILLING BABIES!!!
Newsgroups: alt.abortion

From: Joe Kamenar <joelkamenar@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.romancatholic,
soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.canada,alt.abortion
Subject: --> Abortion Is Murder
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:06:41 -0500

If an aborted baby has a heartbeat and functioning
organs (like a brain), then to take its life is murder.
This is not CHOICE.
People who support unlimited abortions and partial
birth abortions should be banned from society.
How can anyone argue otherwise?


From: bmccandlss@aol.com (BMcCandlss)
Newsgroups: alt.abortion
Subject: Re: MILLIONS FROM KILLING BABIES!!!
>Date: Sun, 21 November 1999 02:06 PM EST
>On 21 Nov 1999 18:35:34 GMT, bmccandlss@aol.com
>(BMcCandlss) wrote:
>>  apifar@ibm.net  (Craig Chilton) wrote:
>>> On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 12:17:54 -0500 (EST),
>>> "boris@movil.com" <anonymous@cotse.com> wrote:

>> Sorry dude, the American Revolution was founded on the
>> principle that all are created with the RIGHT to LIFE,
>> so your "Benediction" is given with foot in mouth.

Keep dreaming.
Our founding documents were based on principles of
English law, which DID ascribe these rights to the unborn;
it's cited right in Roe v. Wade.

Likewise, our founding documents state that
"all Men are created equal, that they are
endowed by their creator with the right to life..."

Note it says CREATED, not BORN.
NO "Men" were EVER born; only little babies are BORN.
Clearly this "creation" refers to something other than birth.

Likewise, "Men" are not "created," we
don't pop into existence fully formed.

Simply put, abortion was  tolerated only due to primitive
ob/gyn practices of the day, nothing more-- your argument,
being based on them, dies with them.

And  yes, the unborn DO have intrinsic value in terms
of their promise of a future as adults, just like infants
do, which is why they are protected by law, as opposed to
being shipped to the pound to be gassed with the cats
and dogs which, although equally intelligent now, will
NEVER reach adult human intellect.

Maybe the unborn had no value BEFORE conception,
but by the time they're big enough to be aborted that's
no longer the case; the die is cast, so those cast
must not die.

***VERY VALID POINTS OPPOSING
***THE MURDERING ABORTIONISTS!!!

From: "Mark" <mark1w@oanet.com>
Newsgroups: edm.general,can.general
Subject: Re: MORGENTALER MAKES $17 MILLIONS KILLING BABIES!!!
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 10:36:57 -0700

Melanie Piper wrote in message <3831CB3F.E0753FBC@telusplanet.net>...
>boris.spetznatz@lubyanka.net wrote:
>> From: bk469@torfree.net (John Lauzon)
>> Subject: MORGENTALER: THE $17 MILLION/YEAR ABORTION MAN

Man alive just did a show on Morgentaler.  I was amazed
that he survived both Auschwitz and Dachau and yet still
has such a callous view of life.  His humanist views developed
before WWII by the influence of his humanist father.

I've been doing some reading on humanism lately.  All of the
worst people this century has seen were humanists.  Hitler,
Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot were all humanists.  So it isn't
surprising to me that Morgantaller, who signed the Humanist
Manifesto II, would be just as willing to kill as they were.

On an aside, he was also very willing to cheat on his wife,
and did so constantly.

>> abortionist Henry Morgentaler, one can
>> ascertain that Morgentaler makes at least $17,083,764
>> per year

>Do you want your reader to be jealous of his income?  How is
>his income relevant to whether or not his beliefs or activities
>should/should not be supported?

I've heard coimments from reformed abortionists that they
did it for the incredible amount of money they make.
Morgantaler has personally performed 75,000 abortions,
at the going rate of about $600, that amounts to $45,000,000!!

>> from his business of killing unborn babies.

>Your choice of word for what he does.  Sure wouldn't be mine.

I have yet to hear a pregnant woman refer to her unborn baby
as a featus, or a lump of flesh.  "Oh, feel my tummy dear,
our lump of flesh is really kicking".


>> A province by province breakdown of abortion
>> provision is provided by CARAL at
>> http://www.caral.ca/situation1.html .

>> The site lists the number of abortions performed per
>> week at the Morgentaler abortuaries.

>"abortuaries"--again a choice of words designed to inflame
>and influence; a less-biased choice of words would be what
>the facilities are actually termed within the conventional
>medical and health-care "establishment": clinics.

ROTFL.  You call the guy an anti-semite and then you have the
nerve to talk about inflamatory language.  A mill is exactly
what they are, get them in and out as fast as they can.
132,000 abortions were performed in 1996, that's one out
of every five pregnancies.

>Ah, what the hell.  I support your right to your opinions, but
>I just couldn't resist.  I was taught to "read critically" in
>about Grade Nine and sometimes the "button-pushers" just jump
>out at me.

Reading critically isn't worth much if you only read propaganda.

Markw


From: bk469@torfree.net (John Lauzon)
Subject: MORGENTALER: THE $17 MILLION/YEAR ABORTION MAN

MORGENTALER: THE $17 MILLION/YEAR ABORTION MAN

OTTAWA, Nov 10 (LSN.ca) - From statistics and figures
published on the website of the Canadian Abortion Rights
Action League (CARAL) and the website of notorious
Canadian Jewish abortionist Henry Morgentaler, one can
ascertain that Morgentaler makes at least $17,083,764
per year from his business of killing unborn babies.

Health researcher Isabelle Begin who discovered the
information informed LifeSite News that Morgentaler
owns and operates 8 clinics in 7 provinces in Canada.

Adding the numbers of abortions performed in the
Morgentaler clinics (save for the Edmonton clinic figures,
which are unavailable) and multiplying by the average
cost of these abortions (as compiled from information
on Morgentaler's website) one can conclude that
destroying pre-born humans makes a substantial
contribution to Morgentaler's comfortable livelihood.
The calculation goes like this:
Average yearly revenue: $607.25/abortion x 28,133
+ (no info for Edmonton) = $17,083,764
minimum yearly gross revenue.

A province by province breakdown of abortion
provision is provided by CARAL at http://www.caral.ca/situation1.html


I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.

CALL late nights best, or even VISIT me:
Donald Ray Ellis
aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL
108 E. Victory Street
Star City, Arkansas 71667
Tel: (870) 628-1437
Email: voiceofreason@blakely.harrogate.net


My associate in Canada who is like me, is:
Dr Laurence B. Shiff (Nazihunter)
327 Cortleigh Boulevard
Toronto, Ontario M5N 1R2 CA
Tel: 416-785-4574.

alternate
KASPU COM
2788 Bathurst St.
Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
Tel: 416-789-5691
(FAX) 416-789-5691
E-Mail: shiff@kaspu.com


Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org


Posted courtesy of : Paul Kneisel, who likes late
night discussions, even from Christian Identity,
Pamyat, Aryan Nations, Stormfront, HAMAS, etc.
I am together with McVay and L.Schiff,
regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

CALL, best late nights (718)390-8692
or even VISIT me:
Outerbridge, Peter
54 Wall St,
Staten Island, NY 10301-1869

My business contact is:
Outerbridge, Peter
tallpaul@NYCT.NET
NAMBLA.org
200 East Tenth Street #603
New York,, NY 10003
(212)-568-6690

Posted by: Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive & 
Henry<hermcam@mindspring.com> who like
late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , or even 
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office: 
1-250-616-9431
Or, VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?

http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg


Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
National Alliance - www.natvan.com
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.




"john[the_truth]l" <"john[the_truth]l"@tcn.net> wrote in message news:<tzcyb.15794$f7.756211@localhost>...
> LucretiaBorgia@florence.it wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:50:16 -0500, "john[the_truth]l"
> > <"john[the_truth]l"@tcn.net> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Donna Whitman wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:13:35 -0500, "john[the liar]
> >>><"john[the liar]"@tcn.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Henry Morgentaler's clinic in Halifax closed yesterday to the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    The clinic closed because the procedure can now be done in a
> >>>hospital like any other operation. 
>  
> >>>Whether it's a choice I would take or
> >>>not, I'm glad that it's freely available. 
> >>
> >>...well sure you are, what do you care if other women slaughter 
> >>a fetus in the uterus or not, abortion is just another form of 
> >>birth control anyways, right? 
> > 
> > 
> > Presumably that is your considered opinion, it was not Donna's
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>...and the article said...
> >>
> >>While Morgentaler's staff saythe closing is due to 
> >>abortion being available at the local Victoria General hospital, 
> >>the hospital was already doing abortions in 1999 when 
> >>Morgentaler admitted that his Nova Scotia operations were not 
> >>turning a profit.
> >>
> > 
> > While abortions were available at the VG when Morgentaler opened his
> > clinic, waiting lists were too long.  Considerations such as the
> > woman's mental state, time limitations on terminating a pregnancy etc.
> > were all considerations that made him open a clinic.  
> > 
> > What is your complaint ?   Thought you would be glad to hear that his
> > clinic closed ?  I suppose you do not like the thought that despite
> > spasmodic protesting your group have not managed to prevent a woman
> > from doing what she feels is best for her, rather than that she should
> > do what you John Lauzon Crackpot feels she should do.   
> 
> ...and you feel that if killing her child is best for her, she 
> should go right ahead and kill the little unwanted bugger, even 
> though she spent all night having sex trying to conceive it, and 
> you are the one who is going to pay via your taxes to have it 
> killed, right?