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Article #176Re: Why are so many people fat?
From: Elmo
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:00
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:00
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Leif Erikson wrote: > Jag_Pop@Hotmail.com wrote: > >> Leif Erikson wrote: >> >>> Elmo wrote: >>> >> >> . >> (snip) >> . >> >> >>> We're talking 3500 square foot (and larger) McMansions, >>> for people with two children at most, and who >>> themselves grew up in the 1950s and 1960s as one of >>> three to five children in a 1400 square foot house, and >>> consider their youths to have been idyllic. Multiple >>> big-screen TVs (HD cable, of course) scattered >>> throughout the McMansion, when they may have had a 17" >>> black-and-white with rabbit ears antenna and perhaps >>> six broadcast channels available. >>> >> >> . >> "six broadcast channels" ! ? ! >> >> We only had three. And had to frequently bang the top >> or sides of the tv to improve reception. >> . >> My wife and I sat in a movie theater lobby recently and >> did some people watching. We love to people watch. >> . >> Have things changed radically overnight? Or do parks >> and outdoor cafes, bookstores, garden shops, hiking paths >> live theaters and museums have a different breed to watch? >> The movie theater lobby >> (a large one for a fourteen theater multiplex) was obese-city. >> The trim were few, very very few. The kids were mirror images >> of the parents. I saw kids with soda containers the size of >> Oktoberfest Bier steins - NO, BIGGER! (Oktoberfest! now there >> is people watching!). Disgusting and shameful display. > > > Well, "fourteen screen multiplex" tells you all you need to know. What > kind of movies were they showing? I can tell you that it wasn't whatever > today's equivalent of "My Dinner with Andre" or "Tampopo" might be (I > don't go to the movies any more; can you tell?) No, they were showing > Hollywood grind-em-out lowbrow fare, in most of which the star was > Special Effects. > > I know just what you're talking about. Movie theaters have for decades > been among the most unholy temples of Americans' tendency to excess. I > remember seeing popcorn buckets that were big enough to bathe an infant, > and I can only guess they've gotten bigger. > > >> . >> My theory is: SUV and Minivans. People that ride hogs >> are effected in appearance by it, why not SUV? >> Big fat, guzzling, selfish, view obstructing SUV. The family >> dog and the master look alike over time, why not SUV >> and rider? > > > But SUVs and minivans are symptoms, not causes. They do go together in > lockstep with all the other grossly excessive forms of consumption. > > There's a restaurant chain out here in California called Claim Jumper; > don't know where else they might be. This place is infamous for > obscenely large portions. Nothing is worse than some > heart-attack-on-a-plate dessert they serve called the Chocolate > Motherlode Cake, described on their website as "A 'Giant' Slice of our > Six-Layer Chocolate Cake." The word "giant" in the description doesn't > do it justice - it is Gargantuan. One slice of this crap is more than > enough to serve four adults generously, but I've seen some blowpig > devour one by herself. > > This kind of restaurant is almost entirely a suburban phenomenon. You > don't see them out in small towns, and you don't see them in the trendy, > too-hip parts of big cities. The really sad thing is, it exemplifies > what far too many people think is The Good Life, but it's simply > grotesque. And it all comes down to what I earlier described as the > American philosophy, summed up as a motto: if a little of something is > good, a lot must be great. That belief simply is wrong, to the point of > being immoral. > > >> >> Not kidding. > > > Unfortunately. Portion sizes contribute to the problem by providing more calories than any reasonable individual should consume which interacts with the ingrained edicts to "Clean Your Plate!" [1] and "It's a sin to waste." so that we consume more calories. Where really upscale restaurants charge a lot for a plate containing a relatively small portion, carefully prepared and very carefully presented "for your dining enjoyment", it's more common to see a family-oriented place providing much larger portions. I think that some of it has to do with the economics of the restaurant business. You need to get a certain amount of money over and above what the cost of the food to cover overhead -- building, heat, taxes, owner's profit margin, etc. If you're an upscale joint, your clientele is paying a premium and knows it. If you're a local beanery or a franchised operation (like Friday at Applebee's in the Outback or Chili Tuesdays with Ruby etc.) your clientele needs a more practical reason to part with more money than the food is "worth" and if you give them a big portion they won't feel so bad about paying for it. So you load them up with low-cost calories in the side-dishes. French Fries, pasta, nacho chips, and the like. Price the individual sides high but include 2 or 3 with the platter specials at a price that's lower and you get people who buy the special and eat the extra calories. Worse, they come to accept that as a "normal" portion size. And I don't even want to think about the kind of specialty foods that you can buy at entertainment venues (sporting events, fairs, and the like). Huge funnel cake -- about 6 pancakes worth of batter fried in oil and dusted with sugar. Deep fried Twinkies (frozen, dipped in batter and deep fried) for Fud's sake! And Doughnuts! How many workplaces have a Doughnut Day where when it's your turn you're supposed to bring in 2 or 6 dozen of those delightful fat pills. Oink! Oink! OINK! -- Politics depends on our ability to persuade each other of common aims based on a common reality. It involves the compromise, the art of what's possible.
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