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Article #50Re: Do we need 12 million to pick lettuce?
From: James Arveson
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:18
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:18
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"Just Cocky" <just@cocky.com> wrote in message news:qban429fe94rlbqchs89d8dp694pmmn8jc@4ax.com... > On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:49:23 -0700, "James Arveson" > <jamesarveson@cox.net> wrote: >> >>"Just Cocky" <just@cocky.com> wrote in message >>news:g03m42hda7a5gtii5hj7cr1r8rjk9mqdib@4ax.com... >>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:34:03 GMT, invalid@notreal.none (Beachcomber) >>> wrote: >> >>> Greencard takes half a decade for most people. Companies aren't going >>> to wait that long. People end up coming on H1-B's which are temporary, >>> non-immigrant visas. >>> >>> As I've said before, it's easier to do it illegally than legally and >>> that is the problem. Currently, the Law has this perverse effect of >>> promoting illegality. >>> >>> -- >> >>Many laws have this unfortunate side-effect. Burglars are forced into >>illegal acts, for example, because an unsympathetic society refuses to >>legalize housebreaking. >> > > You've got it backwards. Law are supposed to promote legality, *NOT* > illegality. It is only bad laws that promote illegality. Good laws do > the opposite. You make a valid point. Why is it that laws against burglary deter burglary, whereas laws against illegal immigration are ineffective? Is it that one has some intrinsic "good" attribute and the other "bad"? I think not. It is because in the case of burglary there is a significant chance of getting caught and punished. That is not the case for illegal immigration. So let's solve the problem and make illegal immigration, too, a "good" law, and inforce it to the same extent we enforce the laws against burglary. James
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