Article View: la.eats
Article #612Re: Uzbekistan: not just a country any more
From: Geoff Miller
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:59
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:59
35 lines
2266 bytes
2266 bytes
Tim May <timcmay@removethis.got.net> writes: : A person who trolls isn't a "troll"; he's a *troller.* > Back formations, even accidental intersections with established > words, are what makes a language rich(er). Akin to punning. My beef isn't with back formations per se, but with inaccuracy. Here's an analogy: someone who hacks is a hacker. Any given example of that thing that he does is a hack. Similarly, someone who trolls is a troller. The provocative post intended to spark emotional res- ponses, and not the guy who wrote it, is the troll. > Trolling as a noun, derived from trawling, trolling, as in fishing, > back-forms a connection to the Old Norse/folk legend image of a troll. This back formation is the result of a misunderstading arising from the fact that more people are familiar with folk-legend trolls than with the type of fishing known as trolling. After all, anyone who was a child in a European culture knows about trolls. Trolling, however, is more specialized knowledge. The fact that this confusion is easily explained (and common) doesn't make it correct. Geoff -- "There is one evil which...should never be passed over in silence but be continually publicly attacked, and that is corruption of the language..." -- W.H. Auden
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<e133cf$sfd@u1.netgate.net>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.germany.com!multikabel.net!feed20.multikabel.net!sn-ams-06!sn-xt-ams-08!sn-post-ams-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!u1.netgate.net!not-for-mailReferences:
<e0un13$krr$1@news.Stanford.EDU> <e0vhab$gn5$1@news.Stanford.EDU> <e10i3m$2j0@u1.netgate.net> <050420060934319517%timcmay@removethis.got.net>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: 115ce9,e1a828bd5e36f276 X-Google-Thread: fe8e7,e1a828bd5e36f276 X-Google-Attributes: gid115ce9,gidfe8e7,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.germany.com!multikabel.net!feed20.multikabel.net!sn-ams-06!sn-xt-ams-08!sn-post-ams-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!u1.netgate.net!not-for-mail From: geoffm@u1.netgate.net (Geoff Miller) Newsgroups: la.eats,ba.food Subject: Re: Uzbekistan: not just a country any more Followup-To: la.eats,ba.food Date: 6 Apr 2006 05:59:59 -0700 Organization: Lonesome Cantaloupe Music Message-ID: <e133cf$sfd@u1.netgate.net> Sender: geoffm@netgate.net References: <e0un13$krr$1@news.Stanford.EDU> <e0vhab$gn5$1@news.Stanford.EDU> <e10i3m$2j0@u1.netgate.net> <050420060934319517%timcmay@removethis.got.net> Reply-To: geoffm@netgate.net X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 36