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Article #805Hot chocolate vs hot cocoa
From: Max Hauser
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:54
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:54
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"Sadok" in news:knIMe.9567$p%3.37755@typhoon.sonic.net: > > ObFood: Brillat-Savarin's 1825 hot-cocoa recipe still rules > -- 4 oz. unsweetened chocolate ... Thanks for the classic recipe, Sadok! As a point of potentially interesting detail, that recipe is actually for hot chocolate in contrast to hot cocoa. Probably the phrase "hot cocoa" is by habit now for any hot chocolate drink, in the US anyway. The two were traditionally distinguished, and "hot cocoa" is relatively the newer, for widespread use. Most people will probably prefer hot chocolate to hot cocoa (using the strict naming) given a side-by-side comparison, because it is richer in a couple of ways. Unsweetened chocolate contains cocoa, but not the reverse. If I remember this (from 35 years ago when I read up on it and roasted and processed my own), roasted cocoa beans in industrial practice are separated, removing hulls from the nibs or kernels, which have most of the fat and flavor (this separation is easy to do at home also). The nibs then are ground and solvent-extracted to an intermediary called cocoa liquor, which contains cocoa butter, other flavorful material, and cocoa proper, which is the fiber material. The hulls as I recall are ground to obtain additional cocoa. Cocoa remains as a by-product if cocoa liquor is further processed to extract the valuable fat (cocoa butter). Block chocolate for cooking or confection is based on cocoa liquor, minus part of the fat and with sometimes additions such as sugar or additional cocoa. (Probably this and much more is online by now.) But using just cocoa for a hot chocolate drink gives you much less of the bean and its flavoring matter. By the way, the raw beans I used 35 years ago were one of those specialty products from Peet's Coffee Tea and Spices. During the long interval when it was a single shop, and Mr. Peet was still in charge. (I don't know if the current chain still carries them.) Brillat-Savarin and other French writers have detailed various old chocolate rituals (many of which involved nuns). Brillat described addition of ambergris (the valuable by-product from whales), which is unlikely and expensive today. He also described the secret of Mme. d'Arestrel, Mother Superior of the Convent of the Visitation at Belley. " 'When you want to taste good chocolate,' said that religious gourmande, `make it the night before, in a faience coffee pot, and leave it. The chocolate becomes concentrated during the night and this gives it a much better consistency' " [LG 1961, Crown]. Another story I got somewhere concerned an order of nuns whose chocolate-making rituals evolved to gross addiction, neglect of normal business, and Vatican intervention. Beware. (Then there's the British Royal Navy with its hot-chocolate recipe based as I remember on unsweetened chocolate and canned sweetened condensed milk, boiling water added.) -- Max
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