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Re: Property Rights

#1963
From: Lawrence Glickman
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:24
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On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:13:29 +0000 (UTC), Merlin Dorfman
<dorfman@green.rahul.net> wrote:

>In alt.tv.the-west-wing Lawrence Glickman <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:30:41 +0000 (UTC), Merlin Dorfman
>> <dorfman@green.rahul.net> wrote:
>
>>>In ca.general BTR1701 <btr1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>...
>>>
>>>>> I've got an idea to "fix it."  STOP giving it away to people who
>>>>> didn't earn it, to people who are not entitled to it.  That means all
>>>>> illegal aliens.  Kick them the f*ck out of the country.  Stop throwing
>>>>> money at them; it only encourages more of their kind to sneak across
>>>>> the border.
>>>
>>>     Social Security is not "given away" to people who don't earn
>>>it.  The amount of your monthly check depends on how much you have
>>>contributed over the years.  (You should be getting a letter from
>>>the Social Security Administration every year detailing your expected
>>>monthly check based on assumptions about your future earnings and
>>>FICA tax payments.)
>>>     BTW employers have been known to charge illegal alien employees
>>>Social Security, Unemployment, IRS withholding, and other taxes and
>>>then...keep the money themselves rather than send it to the
>>>government.  After all, the employees are in no position to complain.
>
>> Sure it is.  In California, you don't even have to be a citizen of the
>> USA to get all the benefits that accrue with citizenship.  You get
>> free schooling, medical care, college, housing, food, money for
>> clothes, drivers licenses, you name it, you get it.
>
>     The statement was to stop giving social security to people
>who don't earn it.  The fact is that SS is not given to people who
>don't earn it.  
>     Free drivers licenses?
>
>> All you need to qualify for this largesse is being a felon.
>
>     If you are not a felon you don't qualify?

Right.
In NY State, for another example, if you're a felon, you get 3 hots
and a cot, courtesy of the people of the State, and a GED, which can
get you into a community college for a 2 year degree, from which you
can move on to a 4 year university, courtesty of the State.

I've seen it, so don't tell me it doesn't happen.

Now honest people like you and I have to WORK for the tuition, books,
supplies, room, board, transportation, incidentals, etc. etc., whilst
the felon gets all these things gratis.
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From: Lawrence Glickman <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: Property Rights
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:24:34 -0500
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