🚀 go-pugleaf

In article <c2iu8r$dhr@u1.netgate.net>,
Geoff Miller <geoffm@netgate.net> wrote:

" It's to be expected that polite society is going to look askance at
" the sort of behavior associeted with vagrants: public sleeping,
" public shitting and pissing, panhandling, and poor hygiene, to name
" several that come readily to mind -- not to mention the often poor
" social skills and outright deranged behavior that's common among
" such people.  Why do bleeding-heart liberals like you have such a
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" powerful instinct for defending society's failures and fuckups?

Thank you for using that line; it is a useful metric.  It helped me
understand society a lot, myself.

I think we should find appropriate places to draw lines.  Many of us
can find appropriate places to draw lines if we care enough to,
however many people don't care about being appropriate with anything.

If homeless impact me negatively in any way, I'm first (I mean it!
I'm usually the first one to call police (usually homeless aren't a
problem where sheriff are the local law enforcement entity) and tell
them to stick them in prison for an appropriate amount of time, and
consider it well worth my tax for such a purpose) to act to get rid of
them.  However, seeking them out and lumping them all together as
criminals when not all of them are is absurdly wrong.  There needs to
be strong discrimination.  I am *not* advocating mental welfare for
every one of them using expensive social "science" wishywashy money
sucking "professionals" (although an occasional stint with a
*competent* professional when appropriate would probably be good, if
that is possible, although I seriously am concerned about whether or
not it is given government's ability to obtain competency).

I don't know how this discussion started, so I want to make certain
you don't think I'm defending any position which promotes bad or evil
behavoir.  If sleeping in a sidewalk was the original topic, and
somebody had to actually be caught between a sleeper and a gang of
unmanly low class men raised mostly by ancestry (``legal guardians'')
who had lunar hormonal imabalanced violent, threatening, unstable
outbreaks, then yeah, call 911, get the hell rid of them, they are a
public menace by exacerbating the potential of causing a situation of
a clear and present danger, but so are the bitchy fatherless
pseudo-families (more like thug mobs) the person was scared of in the
first place, and more so than the obstructing (otherwise innocent)
sleeper.  But, OTOH, if they are not in the way (at all) ... see above
longer discussion.