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<pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:17:54 -0400, "Edward M. Kennedy"
> <NoSpam@Ham.com> wrote:
>
> >
> ><pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
> >news:02n8nv806147saaks9rvdjqsmbbrg067p8@4ax.com...
> >> On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:17:43 -0400, "Edward M. Kennedy"
> >> <NoSpam@Ham.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Susan Hogarth" <sjh@tribeagles.org> wrote
> >> >
> >> >> You've put your finger on the problem. Why should the taxpayers pay
for
> >> >*your*
> >> >> no trespassing sign? That's between you and the phone company you do
> >> >business
> >> >> with.
> >>
> >> No, it's not.  No more than the no trepassing sign in my yard,
> >> which carries weight and effect only because it's backed up by
> >> criminal penalties enforced by the government.
> >
> >That's an irrelevant bonus of a legal system.  Your unlisted phone
> >number contract would also be enforcable by the government.
>
> Not under any existing law.

Have you even *heard* of  Common Law and/or have any
clue that  torts and contracts are still covered by it in the
absence of legislation?

> Which is why we need a new law.
> One that does not deprive me of the right to have a listed phone

You have a right to not be called at home by people you
don't know???  You are arguing you are entitled to something,
which is the perverse leftist sense of right.  I'm using the old
sense of the word, the right to act (which includes the right to own).

> number, just as the law that enforces the No Trespassing sign does not
> deprive me of the right to have an address.

The trespassing sign costs money.  So does an unlisted number
and other services.  Plus you keep confusing ownership of
property with subscribing to SOMEONE ELSE'S SERVICE.

If you want the rough equivalent of a no tresspassing sign for
your phone, that's your problem, not mine.  One way to do
this is to convince phone comapanies that all contracts should
have no telemarketing clause, under penalty of  X.  Then the
phone company could make money suing telemarketers.

> You are saying that all I have to do to get rid of salesmen
> knocking on the door is not have an address, or a driveway.  That's
> incredibly stupid.

Which is why I didn't say it.

--Ted