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pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>>When you connect your phone to the telephone network, by default you are
>>allowing (authorizing) others to call you on "your" equipment.  This is a
> 
> The hell I am !

Then hell it is.

> No more than when I drive on a public road, I
> am inviting you to take my car down to the store when you feel like
> it.

Fallacy of bad analogy. 

> My car has locks on it to prevent you from using it ( if your
> conscience and morals don't ).  The DNC is a lock on my phone to
> prevent you from using it.  Go buy your own phone and call yourself.
> 
> I have an internet connection to my private network.  Within
> my network I run several webservers and other things.  Guess what ?
> Neither you nor anyone else is authorized to access them without my
> permission !  

You've granted tacit approval by putting it up where it's readily available 
to the public. It's like opening your front window which looks out onto a 
busy street and then accusing people of invading your privacy if they look 
up at you. You've created the very problem you're perceiving. It's not the 
telemarketers calling that's the problem. It's your inability to control 
who calls you that's the problem.

> I can 'look out' ( use the internet, IE the phone system
> ), but you can not 'look in' ( use or even see my network ) even
> though they are connected !  Because I own the things I own, and you
> don't get to use them without my permission ( which you do not have ).

And the closest this comes is to the physical phone device you have 
connected to the phone lines. Nobody can pick up that handset without your 
permission. But, calling you is not the same thing as using your phone 
device. Like Cornstock accurately said, it's really the TELCO that's making 
your phone ring; the telemarketers are just asking them to do it by paying 
for service. 

>>general statement given if you have a standard phone service.  You can
>>tell you phone service that you don't want certain people to call you: ie.
>>those who use caller id protection & those orignating from numbers you
>>tell the phone company to block (there may also be other ways that I don't
>>know
>>about).  There are ways to handle this outside more regulation.
> 
> This DNC is another way to tell another group of 'certain
> people' not to call me, if that is what I wish to tell them ( by
> signing up ).

You keep believing that. In 6 months, we'll see if things have changed at 
all, or if you've just thumped your chest for nothing.

> It's not 'regulation', it's a service, provided so that those
> who wish to sign up have a means of communicating with the vast
> tele-asshole community in a way that is logistically feasible.  It is
> a facilitation of the desires of the people.

It's a law with more loopholes than you seem to realize; loopholes that 
will hardly stop you from receiving the calls you're so up in arms about.

>>Besides the truth of the matter is, this law - like so many others - won't
>>do a damn thing.  It will not stop people from calling you during dinner
>>to
>>ask for money (donations or in exchange for goods or services).  Do you
>>understand that?
> 
> Of course.  But it's a nice thought :-)

And that's all it is is a nice thought, without anything behind it. 

> BTW, the tele-asshole industry doesnt' seem to understand it,
> or at least pretends not to, because they're screaming that it will
> put them out of business.  Which I wish it would, but I suspect it
> won't.

If it won't, then what good is it? They'll still be able to make calls, so 
the whole situation is worthless...

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