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Article #105Re: California High Speed Rail.
From: kkt
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:13
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:13
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Hatunen <hatunen@cox.net> writes: > On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:46:29 GMT, Merritt Mullen > <mmullen8014@mchsi.com> wrote: > > >In article <nospam-FC2FF2.16370508112008@mara100-84.onlink.net>, > > Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > > >> There's no way that they will be allowed to seize without payment new > >> ROW from San Francisco to San Jose. The land is just too valuable; there > >> would be a huge hue and cry > > > >Eminent domain does not mean "seize without payment." In fact, that > >would be illegal. The land will be paid for. > > > >How come there never seems to be these problems when we are talking > >about a new freeway or toll road, which is also grade separated, and > >much wider than a HSR right or way? > > Usually a freeway or tollroad is built through rural land and the > threat of eminent domain is enough to induce the land owners to > sell. But eminent domain is frequently used in more populated > areas, although, again, the threat of eminet domain is usually > enough to make owners sell the land. Yes. Also, when Southern Pacific owned the right-of-way, they had to pay property taxes on it every year. Freeways don't pay property taxes, so they have less incentive to minimize their use of land. -- Patrick
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