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Re: California High Speed Rail.

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From: Hatunen
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:11
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:10:06 -0800, Steve Fenwick
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>In article <4mlfh41ar2q2ha82tk40gv70f93qlfq6s4@4ax.com>,
> Hatunen <hatunen@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:37:05 -0800, Steve Fenwick
>> <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <133ch45n7cjp39gkofg62fsh53an6jp38d@4ax.com>,
>> > Hatunen <hatunen@cox.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:16:26 -0600, Stephen Sprunk
>> >> <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >The problem isn't stations or interchange of passengers; the problem is 
>> >> >that many parts of the ROW aren't wide enough for four tracks, which 
>> >> >means that if commuter and HSR trains can't share, one or the other will 
>> >> >have to be single-tracked part of the way, which hurts capacity and 
>> >> >causes any late trains to snowball.  
>> >> 
>> >> You mean "at this time many parts of the ROW aren't wide enough
>> >> for four tracks". HSR will obviously have rights of eminent
>> >> domain and would be able to acquire sufficient land to provide
>> >> the extra ROW.
>> >
>> >There's no way that they will be allowed to seize without payment new 
>> >ROW from San Francisco to San Jose. The land is just too valuable; there 
>> >would be a huge hue and cry.
>> 
>> Um. Do you know what "eminent domain" means?
>
>You missed my response. 

Which part of "There's no way that they will be allowed to seize
without payment" do you think I misunderstood?

>The point is that the area around the ROW is too 
>valuable to pay for; the cost would be prohibitively high.

ROW is bought in highly urbanized areas all the time, either by
offer of purchase or eminent domain. Yes, it can be expensive
(although at this time it's probably a lot les expensive than it
used to be), but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. if you
look at the land along the CAlTrain ROW from Menlo park north,
there's a lot of narrow parcels between the ROW and ECR, for
instance.

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