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Article #107Re: California High Speed Rail.
From: Steve Fenwick
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 05:25
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 05:25
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In article <mmullen8014-2B4949.17462808112008@netnews.mchsi.com>, Merritt Mullen <mmullen8014@mchsi.com> wrote: > In article <nospam-FC2FF2.16370508112008@mara100-84.onlink.net>, > Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > > There's no way that they will be allowed to seize without payment new > > ROW from San Francisco to San Jose. The land is just too valuable; there > > would be a huge hue and cry > > Eminent domain does not mean "seize without payment." In fact, that > would be illegal. The land will be paid for. > > How come there never seems to be these problems when we are talking > about a new freeway or toll road, which is also grade separated, and > much wider than a HSR right or way? > > Merritt I understand. The point is that buying that ROW would be crazy expensive. There is no indication in the published plans that that is in the works, at least not in the SFBA. Where HSR is planned in the SFBA, especially between SFO and Santa Clara, is along a route which has a mix of grade-separated and non-separated ROW, in close proximity to existing construction. I didn't noticed, for example, the need to procure new ROW that had existing construction for things like the new 85-101 interchange in Mountain View. I think the planners who planned in at least some of the major highways did a better job future-proofing the ROW than did Caltrain, who used mostly existing SP ROW. Steve -- steve <at> w0x0f <dot> com "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, chip shot in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
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