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Re: Commuting by train builds new friends and social contacts

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From: Jack May
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 22:33
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"david parsons" <orc@pell.portland.or.us> wrote in message 
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> In article <el7342-1bh.ln1@yelm.homenetwork>,
>   Recharge time is the problem with batteries.   A regular sedan won't
>   get that sort of range and you'd have to take the car offline for
>   several hours to refill the batteries.   For a pure commute car[1],
>   it's not a problem -- you plug it into a powerpoint at home and leave
>   it overnight -- but if you ever wanted to drive your car farther you'd
>   either need a generator sled or a second car[2].

Apparently electric is a problem even with commutes.  I have seen claims 
that the real world range of the production electric vehicles was 40 miles, 
not the 120 miles under best condition.

>
>   The energy density with hydrogen isn't any better than batteries, but
>   you can refill the car faster than you can with electricity (provided
>   you can find a station that sells hydrogen.)

Yes, it is TBD for the real world range for a practical, affordable hydrogen 
vehicle.  Looks like we may find out in a few years though.   The chicken 
and egg problem with filling stations may be jump started in California 
according to Arnold, but that is also TBD
>
>
>   Of course it's all a moot point;  the hydrogen car is just another
>   pretty mirage meant to push off the hard decisions onto someone else[3].

The hydrogen car is look fairly near term according to the Science magazine 
article which is far from being a puff piece magazine.
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