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Article #224Re: Commuting by train builds new friends and social contacts
From: Jack May
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 22:33
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 22:33
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"david parsons" <orc@pell.portland.or.us> wrote in message news:ckp4gj$4ia@pell.portland.or.us... > In article <el7342-1bh.ln1@yelm.homenetwork>, > Recharge time is the problem with batteries. A regular sedan won't > get that sort of range and you'd have to take the car offline for > several hours to refill the batteries. For a pure commute car[1], > it's not a problem -- you plug it into a powerpoint at home and leave > it overnight -- but if you ever wanted to drive your car farther you'd > either need a generator sled or a second car[2]. Apparently electric is a problem even with commutes. I have seen claims that the real world range of the production electric vehicles was 40 miles, not the 120 miles under best condition. > > The energy density with hydrogen isn't any better than batteries, but > you can refill the car faster than you can with electricity (provided > you can find a station that sells hydrogen.) Yes, it is TBD for the real world range for a practical, affordable hydrogen vehicle. Looks like we may find out in a few years though. The chicken and egg problem with filling stations may be jump started in California according to Arnold, but that is also TBD > > > Of course it's all a moot point; the hydrogen car is just another > pretty mirage meant to push off the hard decisions onto someone else[3]. The hydrogen car is look fairly near term according to the Science magazine article which is far from being a puff piece magazine.
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