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Re: Commuting by train builds new friends and social contacts

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From: Mr. Precision
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:14
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Jack May wrote:
> "Andrew Szafran" <gro.ratsenol.fds@ukozosob.BACKWARDS.invalid> wrote in 
> message news:cknam4$970$1@chessie.cirr.com...
> 
>>My mistake.  I was thinking that it was an experimental solar car of some
>>type, but it actually is a small 4-passenger car.  Nice.
> 
> 
> Its a an experimental electric car that is no where near production.   The 
> figures for most electric cars are usually no where near reality.   There 
> are claims the range of the production electric cars are typically around 40 
> miles instead of the claimed 120 miles.

Claims? ACP and Solectria have demonstrated the ranges of their products 
in real traffic, on real roads.

> Driving in real traffic tends to get less miles.  When batteries age, the 
> range decreases.   Production electric cars were restricted to warm parts of 
> the US because range drops very low in winter temperatures.

Depends on the battery technology. It's certainly a problem with 300 
year old lead acid battery technologies, recent battery technologies 
aren't as effected by temperature and you get around a hundred thousand 
miles out of the batteries before the aging effect becomes an issue.

> All we have for the electric car referenced is a research vehicle with no 
> where sufficient information to see if it is ever remotely a practical car. 
> There is not even a picture

There are lots of pictures, I even posted a link. Google will show them 
to you. Solectria Sunrise, also try the ACP Tzero.

> That research vehicle seem to be a proof of concept where the high cost of 

Pre-production.

> carbon fiber construction and state of the art high cost batteries, and 

Nowhere near state of the art, not for 5 years anyway. This was 1997 
we're talking about. Since then, mobiles and laptops have driven the 
cost of batteries down by orders of magnitude.

> other advanced technology is not a concern.   Does the car have features 
> that consumers require like heat and air-conditioning.   Unlikely.  What 
> else is it missing.

So, basically you are completely ignorant of this car in particular, of 
electric vehicle products generally on the market but are voicing your 
opinion anyway. Do yourself a favour, go look it up, and the other 
products Solectria and others sell. Google has plenty of information.

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