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Article #304Re: FWD: Legislator Is Driven to Lift Limits on Carpool Lanes
From: David desJardins
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 03:33
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 03:33
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John David Galt <jdg@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> writes:
>> But the people who push for more freeways have always promised that their
>> new projects will cut congestion, and now you're saying they don't?
>
> They do, but the effect isn't permanent because population keeps growing.
> This will always be true, so it will always be necessary to keep building
> more freeways. And everybody knows it.
Do you accept the premise that *some* highway construction projects do
actually increase total congestion? Either by inducing more new demand
than they can fulfill? Or by stimulating new demand in a place that is
poorly served?
The seems perfectly obvious to me. You can question how often this is
the case, but the concept should not be in dispute.
David desJardins
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