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Article #305Re: FWD: Legislator Is Driven to Lift Limits on Carpool Lanes
From: Robert Cote
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 06:43
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 06:43
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In article <vohadw8nfca.fsf@math.berkeley.edu>, David desJardins <desj@math.berkeley.edu> wrote: > John David Galt <jdg@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> writes: > >> But the people who push for more freeways have always promised that their > >> new projects will cut congestion, and now you're saying they don't? > > > > They do, but the effect isn't permanent because population keeps growing. > > This will always be true, so it will always be necessary to keep building > > more freeways. And everybody knows it. > > Do you accept the premise that *some* highway construction projects do > actually increase total congestion? You are mixing terms. All capacity increases -probably- induce new trips that were previously untennable under a typical user's personal travel budget. Congestion is not the same thing. It is by definition possible for a project to increase congestion say a safety realignment or traffic calming program but that's not what you meant. It is possible to have a highway project that does not address congestion.
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