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Article #548Re: On The Road To Smart Growth: Article: LA Freeway Fix-Up Won't Do Crap; Proof That We Can't Build Our Way Out Of Congestion; ...
From: David desJardins
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 05:42
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 05:42
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Guy Macon <guymacon@deltanet.com> writes:
> I love it when "experts" say that adding lanes won't reduce
> congestion. Wouldn't it logically follow that removing lanes won't
> increase congestion?
No. That wouldn't follow.
> In the real world, increasing the capacity at one bottleneck
> attracts motorists, which makes alternate routes less congested,
> and increasing the capacity at all bottlenecks reduces congestion
> throughout the system.
In the long term, it's perfectly possible for added capacity to increase
congestion, or to decrease congestion. That depends on how it affects
people's decisions. If the extra capacity spurs more than enough
development to saturate that capacity, then congestion can increase.
Look at all of the places that had relatively little traffic, then got
an interstate highway and got big, and now have congestion. They would
have had less congestion (and been much smaller) if the highway had
never come through.
David desJardins
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