🚀 go-pugleaf

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:08:26 +0100, "L�ko Willms"
<l.willms@domain.invalid> wrote:

>Am Sun, 9 Nov 2008 06:35:34 UTC,  schrieb Greg Gritton 
><gregnada@gmail.com>  auf misc.transport.rail.americas :
>
>> From the description of "Concourses"
>> in "Engineering Criteria":  "Concourses may be one or more
>> areas where passengers walk to or from trains or queue
>> in anticipation of boarding trains.  Furthermore, if boarding
>> queue areas for many tracks are employed, a concourse
>> should have adequate depth and length to accommodate
>> approximately seventy five percent of the normal peak
>> passenger count for each train."
>
>  This is a completely unnecessary complication. Boarding a train 
>should not be reduced to procedures which might be necessary for 
>airplanes, where passengers have to wait in a boarding lounge until 
>boarding the plane together. Passengers should be able to wait for the
>train on the platform, and not be held back in some concourse until 
>the train stops. This would prolong stop times to the 10 to 20 minutes
>of the Transsiberian trains, and thus slow down a train which then is 
>no longer a high speed train. 

It may not still be this way, but when Eurostar terminated at
Waterloo Station in London, passengers were held in a waiting
area and then released to poard the train. I would reckon that
before allowing passengers to board train personnel needed time
to clean up the carriages a bit, the way airplanes are similarly
cleaned before allowing passengers to board. Eurostart hasn't
many intermediate stops, and I've not used them, but it seemed
that the passenfgers were already waiting at these stations.

Certainly one waits on the platform for German ICEs, even, IIRC,
at termini. But at termini, the ICE's don't seem to have the fast
turnaround time of Eurostar and probably get cleaned up after
arrival and before departing passengers show up.

>  I admired the Japanese Shinkansen stations, where the doors of the 
>trains would be marked on the platform, so that people could queue 
>right at those places where the would enter the car where their 
>reserved place would be located. 
>
>  This is something California HSR should strive for. 

BART already does this, so CalHSR shouldn't have any problem
doing it.



-- 
   ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@cox.net) *************
   *       Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow         *
   * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *