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Article #74Re: Why don't ISPs offer shell anymore?
From: JC Dill
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:00
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:00
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On 15 Jan 1997 14:36:37 +0100, paul@bean.xtdnet.nl (Paul Wouters) expound upon: "Re: Why don't ISPs offer shell anymore?" >In <32dc32f3.16908507@news.concentric.net> jcdilll@ix.netcom.com (JC Dill) writes: > >>This answers the reason that Concentric has accounts with shell access >>but no compile permission. If you don't need to compile, Concentric > >Interesting. What prevents me from uploading a compiler ? I am not sure of the mechanics. I just know that is isn't permitted/allowed *somehow*. If you need to run a compiler on a unix shell machine, the Concentric accout is not for you... > >>may have all the shell access you need. You can get the first month >>for $1 if you bill it to your credit card, you also get Navigator 3.0 >>free... > >You get Netscape for a shell account ????? Interesting ;) We could ofcourse >just run slirp or term and use netscape, but it seems silly ;) It isn't *just* a shell account. It is a shell/PPP account, so you telnet in and run a shell session, or use a winsock dialer and a graphical interface like Netscape or Eudora etc. Many users never take advantage of the shell, but it is *there* if they need/want to. > >Shell accounts are very powerful. That's a reason why most isp's probably >ownt offer them. And charging is hard, since they will usually try to make >background jobs, logout and log back in to get the results. > Shell accounts are very dangerous, and very CPU usage intensive if poorly managed (background jobs, jobs running when the user is logged off, etc.. are often/potentially poor allocations of the ISP's and Server's resources). Shell accounts need to be strictly managed, and the *payoff* is low, compared to the other things an ISP's engineering staff can be tasked to manage. > > >>http://home.concentric.net for more info. > >>jc >-- >"To boldly binary patch commercial programs where no commercial program has >been binary patched before..". Has a certain ring to it, doesn't it? >Now the question is just: "Who is first?" > --- Linus ( A new linux kernel broke the game Abuse) cute!
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 106ed4,66ca66afeebaf7d5 X-Google-Attributes: gid106ed4,public X-Google-Thread: faff9,3b2229014b3f5b24 X-Google-Attributes: gidfaff9,public X-Google-Thread: f4f5d,66ca66afeebaf7d5 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4f5d,public X-Google-Thread: 107d03,55985d278fa5ab0b X-Google-Attributes: gid107d03,public X-Google-Thread: fdb40,55985d278fa5ab0b X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb40,public From: jcdilll@ix.netcom.com (JC Dill) Subject: Re: Why don't ISPs offer shell anymore? Date: 1997/01/15 Message-ID: <32dd5590.4776519@news.concentric.net> X-Deja-AN: 210066062 references: <5akrer$1e7$1@sun1.sure.net> <frantic-ya02408000R1201970106500001@news.primenet.com> <5bbssq$2dq$1@philippi.alphalink.com> <32DA734A.167EB0E7@net.com> <5bee2m$ahu$1@philippi.alphalink.com> <5bejv3$o2e$2@marina.cinenet.net> <5bfihf$c9n$1@jake.probe.net> <32dc32f3.16908507@news.concentric.net> <paul.853335027@bean> organization: Concentric Internet Services newsgroups: la.wanted,la.general,ca.general,alt.internet.access.wanted,linux.admin.isp