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Re: Why don't ISPs offer shell anymore?

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From: Paul Wouters
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:00
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In <32dc32f3.16908507@news.concentric.net> jcdilll@ix.netcom.com (JC Dill) writes:

>This answers the reason that Concentric has accounts with shell access
>but no compile permission.  If you don't need to compile, Concentric

Interesting. What prevents me from uploading a compiler ?

>may have all the shell access you need.  You can get the first month
>for $1 if you bill it to your credit card, you also get Navigator 3.0
>free...

You get Netscape for a shell account ????? Interesting ;) We could ofcourse
just run slirp or term and use netscape, but it seems silly ;)

Shell accounts are very powerful. That's a reason why most isp's probably
ownt offer them. And charging is hard, since they will usually try to make
background jobs, logout and log back in to get the results.

However, the worst shell setup I've seen so far comes from a small  ISP in
Nijmegen (The Netherlands). They charged you for time and diskspace, and had
disabeled all commands like rm,chmod,mv. You could not delete your own files
;)  (I helpd my friend by (ab)using the shells umask to get a copy of rm
on the system with execute bits on :)

Paul


>http://home.concentric.net for more info.

>jc
-- 
"To boldly binary patch commercial programs where no commercial program has
been binary patched before..". Has a certain ring to it, doesn't it?  
Now the question is just: "Who is first?" 
		--- Linus ( A new linux kernel broke the game Abuse)
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From: paul@bean.xtdnet.nl (Paul Wouters)
Subject: Re: Why don't ISPs offer shell anymore?
Date: 1997/01/15
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