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Larry Phillips wrote:
> 
> Sheila Paterson wrote:
> >
> > Gordon McKenzie <me@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>Sheila Paterson wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ms. Amaro has the right to free speech.  This includes the right to
> >>> be obnoxious and offensive.
> 
> Yes, but she does not have the right to do it using whatever service
> she wants to. An ISP is under no obligation to provide a platform for
> that speech.

Well, if an ISP cancelled the accounts of all who are obnoxious and
offensive, they would go bankrupt. I find it most amusing reading
many of these posts. My most crude, offensive posts pale in
comparison to those made by men, who are permitted to do so with
impunity. YOU told Karen to take her jackboots and crawl back in
your sewer bitch. Seemingly that's OK since no one other than me
complains about it. Men pubicly in here call me a man-hating cunt, 
a fetid cunt, a bitch DYKE, a lunatic crack whore, tell me I have 
a fetid cunt, ridicule my appearance using the characteristics of
women in our society, use welfare to ridicule me, make very
disgusting posts about me. And do so with impunity. Seemingly
that is not obnoxious and offensive to posters, since no one 
public complains. I know that people privately complain because
they've emailed me and have emailed the responses to their
complaints.

Again, John van Gurp, Chair of the CCN Policy Committee said that
I did not break the rules of the User Agreement and CCN's public
statement is that my account was not terminated because of
censorhsip, that my account was not terminated because of what
I was posting. The termination they said was due to not being
able to deal with so many complaints because CCN is essentially
a volunteer run organization.

If CCN is going to say that they terminated my account because
of offensive posts, then what about other CCN users who make
offensive posts and send offensive email??? Huh??

What about Robert Speirs, CCN user, who made posts calling 
homosexuals perverts, saying that if his child was homosexual
he would kick the child out of his home, unless the child
changed his/her ways. That is VERY offensive, discrimination,
hateful?

What about George Johnston, CCN user, who calls posters morons,
assholes and ASSWIPES, calls women posters bimbos, and posts
homophobic slurs about posters?? Huh?
 
What about other male CCN users who make offensive posts about
me, make comments about my mental health and sexuality that
are libelous statements?? Huh??

Does CCN get complaints about those men?? Not likely. If so,
not many. Seemingly what we here is a double standard! The
same double standard we have out there. After all in here is
simply a reflection of out there. Bunny rabbits are not making
the posts.

> > Yes.  The groups aren't moderated.  No one said free speech had to be
> > nice.  Speech that isn't nice needs protection.
> 
> However, we do not have free speech in Canada. Some speech that isn't
> nice, falls under a variety of laws (see the statutes of 'hate
> literature' for an example.

You are right that we do not have free speech in Canada. I have the 
Charter in my CCN public files which I presently do not have access
to. Protection of our freedom of expression only applies to censorship
by the government.

Barbara A. Amero