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Re: Take Back The Net

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From: Brian Allardice
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 00:00
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In article <34b04985.10420814@news.ilos.net>, beergut@ilos.net says:

>The logic of this statement escape's me. You seem to be saying that an
>ISP should just sign up customers and let them fly. 

Yes, like the post office.  I buy my stamp and I send my mail.

>The
>ISP has to assume some responsibility for what is on it's server. That
>is why warning letters and accounts canceled happen everyday across
>Canada. 

But mostly, one would suspect, with reference to an ISP's AUP.

>Do you think that if I stumble across a kiddie-porn site I should
>e-mail the author of the site, or the ISP. 

Neither.  Contact the Mounties and they will deal with the author of the
site.  As for the ISP, it has (or should have) no more responsibility 
than a bank for kiddieporn in a safe deposit box.


>Your way of thinking is that an ISP should be just a common carrier
>and not an editor does not fly. If it did, we would have a million
>Zundels, hate mongers, racists and the like having free reign all over
>the net. I am all for free speech, as long as it doesn't break the
>law. You seem to value free speech above the law?

This has nothing to do with free speech and the law.  If I falsely
state that you are a %$#^&ing  &^%$#$$@ that would be actionable (let's
forget offensive, 90% of usenet is offensive) and you would be in a 
position to pursue legal remedies against me.  Me, mind.  Nothing to do
with an ISP.  As for Zundel et al., why bother.....

Cheers,
dba
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From: dba@*spamnix*.uniserve.com (Brian Allardice)
Subject: Re: Take Back The Net
Date: 1998/01/05
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