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Re: National Sales Tax - An Alternative?

#459
From: LQuest
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 00:00
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ukeith@telerama.lm.com (Keith) wrote:

>Travis Corcoran (tjic@alta.openmarket.com) wrote:

>> Bill Gates receives the same legitimate services from government that
>> your or I do: an army to protect us from external agressors, a police
>> force, a court system that resolves conflict over contracts, etc.

>This is completely false. In fact, Bill Gates benefits a whole lot more
>from government services than your average worker. 
So what!

>For example, while the average worker benefits from the use of the
>streets and highways by being able to drive his or her car over them,
>Microsoft's fleet of delivery trucks make much more use of the roads.
...and those trucks pay a ton more in taxes because of it.  So what's your
point?

>Similarly, while the police may provide protection for the average
>worker's house or apartment, the police provide much more protection
>to the many Microsoft offices around the country.
Say what?  Please explain this astounding assertion.

>And while the average worker benefits by having free primary and
FREE!!  FREE!!!?  Where can I get some of this FREE education?  I wonder how
the "educators" pay the bills for ther materials and facilities if its all
FREE??

>secondary education for his or her kids, Bill Gates benefits from
>free education for his entire work force.
Again -- FREE????

>Bill Gates can get a meeting with any powerful political figure in
>the land. Anyone who thinks that your average worker can get this
>type of response is mad.
He deserves it!  He has earned it!!  Have you?

>One of Bill Gates greatest government services is the protection of
>his intellectual property around the world through such treaties as
>GATT. And the legal structure of the corporation protects Bill
>from personal responsibility for the actions of Microsoft while
>still allowing him the personal benefits thereof.
Blame government for this.  The Corporation legal structure is irrelevant
without government.

>> Come to think of it, it's not clear why Bill Gates should have to pay
>> any more taxes than I should.  The mere fact that he *CAN* do so does
>> not make it any more right that to it would be to draft big strong
>> guys into the military for 10 years, while letting smaller people not
>> serve...

>This is poor analogy.
Wrong!  It's a perfect analogy.  Are YOU a product of
"outcome-based-education"?  If not you will have the mental capacity to
support your gratuitous assertions!


>> Come to think of it, what would be fair would be a true FLAT tax (not
>> a flat percentage, but a flat fee): Bill Gates pays $4k a year to the
>> government, I pay $4k a year to the government, and you pay $4k a year
>> to the government (or somthing alone those lines).  Now *THAT* sounds
>> fair.  We all get the same number of votes, we all have the same
>> freedoms protected by the Bill of Rights, we all get judged by the
>> same judicial system....we should all pay the same taxes.

>There is a very good reason for a progressive tax system. The rich
>benefit individually from government much more than the poor or the
>middle class. 
Utterly socialist, whining brat, male bovine waste matter!


>> --
>> TJIC (Travis J.I. Corcoran)  http://www.openmarket.com/personal/tjic/index.html

>Keith

Mike.

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issue.
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Subject: Re: National Sales Tax - An Alternative?
Date: 1995/12/12
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