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12 total messages Started by Edward Vielmetti Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:29
call for discussion: mi.jobs
#87
Author: Edward Vielmetti
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:29
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this is a call for discussion for mi.jobs.

i've been clipping stuff from a few places and putting it into mi.misc,
but a .misc group is not exactly what you'd call a prime fertile territory
for looking for jobs or advertising availability of same.

rules would be simple: anything that's reasonable in the other .jobs
groups would be reasonable here.  people who post jobs to
misc.jobs.offered would be encouraged by a small gang of volunteers (raise
your hands please) to cross-post into mi.jobs.  

the mi.* group creation ritual appears to be "convince the mi sites to
carry the group".  we'll see what happens....

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 4562
Re: call for discussion: mi.jobs
#88
Author: Roy Richter PH/32
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:46
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In article <17gf2bINNg7j@nigel.msen.com>, emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) writes:
|> this is a call for discussion for mi.jobs.

No! No more groups!

Now that that is out of the way, what about mi.wanted for the traffic?
Given the message frequency in mi.*, I'd think that only one group,
say mi.misc, is warranted.  That's where most of the articles go, anyways.
--
Roy Richter                  Internet: rrichter@ph.gmr.com
Physics Dept, GM Research    UUCP:     rphroy!rrichter
        and Environmental
Re: call for discussion: mi.jobs
#89
Author: Steve Simmons
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:42
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emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) writes:

>this is a call for discussion for mi.jobs.

Mi.wanted seems sufficient to me . . . on the other hand, as a well-known
spineless wimp, I'll go with the majority on this one.
-- 
"If life were fair, the acquisition of a large bosom or a massive inheritance
 would have no bearing on your ability to attract the opposite sex, and Dan
 Quayle would be making a living asking runny-nosed children, `Do you want
 fries with that?'"     -- John Cleese, "Corporate Computing" magazine
call for discussion: mi.jobs
#90
Author: the Maniak
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:42
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In article <17gf2bINNg7j@nigel.msen.com> emv@msen.com writes:

  > rules would be simple: anything that's reasonable in the other .jobs
  > groups would be reasonable here.  people who post jobs to
  > misc.jobs.offered would be encouraged by a small gang of volunteers (raise
  > your hands please) to cross-post into mi.jobs.  
  > 
  > the mi.* group creation ritual appears to be "convince the mi sites to
  > carry the group".  we'll see what happens....

While I *do* think that mi.wanted is sufficient for job postings, if the
"majority" feels that mi.jobs is needed, I'll volunteer to be part of a
small gang.  :)

                                                ...Sensei

==
 Internet:  sensei@dojo.mi.org
 UUCP:  ...!wsu-cs!dojo!sensei                      
Re: call for discussion: mi.jobs
#91
Author: Dave Parks
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:35
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I'm one for putting things where they belong. I'll vote YES on the mi.jobs
group and carry it on Plex-1.  If there isn't enough YES votes, I'll look
in mi.wanted (since I am looking at this time). ;)
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Re: call for discussion: mi.jobs
#92
Author: Bryan Beecher
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:56
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In article <17gf2bINNg7j@nigel.msen.com> emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) writes:
>the mi.* group creation ritual appears to be "convince the mi sites to
>carry the group".  we'll see what happens....

We'd carry it [mi.jobs] . . .
-- 
Bryan Beecher, U-M Information Technology Division (+1 313 747 4050)
Domain:	Bryan.Beecher@umich.edu        Path:  ..!uunet!mailrus!bryan
re: call for discussion: mi.jobs
#97
Author: Paul Haas
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 05:39
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If we look at the total number of job postings in the mi groups and do
a reasonable extrapolation, it is obvious that we don't need a separate
group for Michigan jobs now or for the next few years.

On the other hand, if we look at (un)employment statistics in Michigan,
it is obvious that making it easier for people to find work is a good
thing.

So, if Ed (emv@msen.com) proposed creating mi.jobs so that
4 or 5 postings a month will now also get crossposted to mi.jobs,
I am against creation of the group.

I would be for creation of the group, if it meant that Ed would
repost Michigan jobs found elsewhere, or convince large local
employers to post their job openings or anything else that would
lead to a significant volume of appropriate posts.
--
Paul Haas  paulh@ox.com OTA Limited Partnership (313) 930-1888
Psst, hey buddy, want to buy an 8 MByte Sun 3/50 and a Telebit T2500?
Re: call for discussion: mi.jobs
#94
Author: Roy Richter PH/32
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:04
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In article <1992Aug26.233512.28960@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us>, root@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us (Dave Parks) writes:
|> ...If there isn't enough YES votes, ...

How many are enough?  I'd say follow the usual USENET guidelines, that is,
100 more "Yes" votes than "No" votes for it to pass.
--
Roy Richter                  Internet: rrichter@ph.gmr.com
Physics Dept, GM Research    UUCP:     rphroy!rrichter
        and Environmental
Re: call for discussion: mi.jobs
#95
Author: Elizabeth Zaenger
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:06
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In article <1992Aug27.015651.26348@terminator.cc.umich.edu> bryan@notorious.rs.itd.umich.edu (Bryan Beecher) writes:
>In article <17gf2bINNg7j@nigel.msen.com> emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) writes:
>>the mi.* group creation ritual appears to be "convince the mi sites to
>>carry the group".  we'll see what happens....
>
>We'd carry it [mi.jobs] . . .

We'd carry it too.  We will carry anything (that we don't have to explicitly pay
money for...) 

But Im curious--are there people out there who read *some* mi groups, but not
all?   (Even worse, are there some sites that only carry selected mi groups?)
I read any mi postings, so I dont really care if there is an mi.jobs or not...
(But I do like the recent postings that Ed has made about local jobs!)
Re: call for discussion: mi.jobs
#100
Author: Chad Childers
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:11
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>We'd carry it [mi.jobs] . . .

Whatever happened to mi.fido?  It seems to me that's more important, and
would have many times the traffic of a mi.jobs group... there might even
BE a mi.fido.jobs group already.
-- 
Chad Childers                            Work: chad@quality.ta.ford.com
FMEAplus Project Leader                  Home: chad@deep.mi.org
Re: call for discussion: mi.jobs
#103
Author: John Palmer
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:47
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In article <1992Aug27.140617.26702@zip.eecs.umich.edu> liz@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Elizabeth Zaenger) writes:
"In article <1992Aug27.015651.26348@terminator.cc.umich.edu> bryan@notorious.rs.itd.umich.edu (Bryan Beecher) writes:
">In article <17gf2bINNg7j@nigel.msen.com> emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) writes:
">>the mi.* group creation ritual appears to be "convince the mi sites to
">>carry the group".  we'll see what happens....
">
">We'd carry it [mi.jobs] . . .
"
"We'd carry it too.  We will carry anything (that we don't have to explicitly pay
"money for...) 
"
"But Im curious--are there people out there who read *some* mi groups, but not
"all?   (Even worse, are there some sites that only carry selected mi groups?)
"I read any mi postings, so I dont really care if there is an mi.jobs or not...
"(But I do like the recent postings that Ed has made about local jobs!)

Its not like the mi hierarchy has 35 meg/day traffic. We get them all and
send them all to whoever wants them.
Re: call for discussion: mi.jobs
#105
Author: Joe McConnell
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:23
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Sure there are people who read only *some* mi.* groups.  Me, for one.

And, Yes on mi.jobs.
--
Joe McConnell  | Opinions expressed are the   | People like Ross Perot made
mccon@erim.org | author's, not the employer's.| this country what it is today.
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