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On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:19:02 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:

> FromTheRafters wrote:
>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>> FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>>>> FromTheRafters *appears* to be saying this statement is wrong:-
>>>>>
>>>>>> Or if you want to host the group yourself then go out and purchase a
>>>>>> Server with a server OS and get a dedicated T3 line and off you go.
>>>>>> You
>>>>>> will have complete control of the group and you will also be able to
>>>>>> delete posters that post to your group without any effort and at your
>>>>>> will and whim. (statement made by P. Foldes)
>>>
>>> *
>>>>> So how *does* the first post of a new group get 'out there' and
>>>>> propagated around Usenet?
>>> *
>>>
>>>> Hosting a group is different from creating a group.
>>>
>>> I understand that!
>>>
>>>> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/alt-creation-guide/
>>>> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/creating-newsgroups/part1/
>>>
>>> Thank you. Very informative information.
>>>
>>> I believe there is truth in what Foldes has said (although I'm quite
>>> certain that a T3 connection is unnecessary!)
>>
>> I agree.
> 
> <shock>! ;-)
> 
>>> I _suspect_ that *if* the person hosting a specific newsgroup
>>> ('test.here', for instance) wishes, they could, indeed, have access to
>>> the IP address of anyone/everyone connecting to that newsgroup and, as
>>> PF says, delete individual posts from the group.
>>
>> No, the group exists 'in the cloud' when the hosting server is peered.
>> Each other server can choose to carry or not carry any particular group.
>> It can also choose to which posts to carry within a group - they can
>> censor because of foul language for instance.
>>
>> Did you even look at this the last time I posted it? It give a pretty
>> good basic overview of the system.
>>
>> http://people.dsv.su.se/~jpalme/e-mail-book/usenet-news.html
> 
> Of course I studied it. You've been my mentor for years! (Thanks, btw!)
> 
> It says " The procedure for distribution of news can be compared to 
> pouring water onto a flat surface; the water flows out in all directions 
> (see the figure below)."
> 
> So *who* pours the water - and how?
> 
> Surely that's not too difficult a question to answer.
> 
> Have you not noticed how few *real* test posts are made here?

Basically, what he is describing is called a news feed.
When someone wants to add their server to the network, they "ask" the other
networked servers for input. In return, outputting as well.
Most of the major servers that are the backbone of usenet will charge a fee
for the newsfeed. From a few hundred to a few thousand dollars a month.

There are a few programs out there that will turn any server into a "news"
conduit. Once installed, you can create your own list of existing groups,
or create your own. For instance, several services have their own set of
newsgroups privy to only their customers.