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~BD~ wrote:
> FromTheRafters wrote:
>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>> FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>>>> FromTheRafters *appears* to be saying this statement is wrong:-
>>>>>
>>>>>> Or if you want to host the group yourself then go out and purchase a
>>>>>> Server with a server OS and get a dedicated T3 line and off you go.
>>>>>> You
>>>>>> will have complete control of the group and you will also be able to
>>>>>> delete posters that post to your group without any effort and at your
>>>>>> will and whim. (statement made by P. Foldes)
>>>
>>> *
>>>>> So how *does* the first post of a new group get 'out there' and
>>>>> propagated around Usenet?
>>> *
>>>
>>>> Hosting a group is different from creating a group.
>>>
>>> I understand that!
>>>
>>>> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/alt-creation-guide/
>>>> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/creating-newsgroups/part1/
>>>
>>> Thank you. Very informative information.
>>>
>>> I believe there is truth in what Foldes has said (although I'm quite
>>> certain that a T3 connection is unnecessary!)
>>
>> I agree.
>
> <shock>! ;-)
>
>>> I _suspect_ that *if* the person hosting a specific newsgroup
>>> ('test.here', for instance) wishes, they could, indeed, have access to
>>> the IP address of anyone/everyone connecting to that newsgroup and, as
>>> PF says, delete individual posts from the group.
>>
>> No, the group exists 'in the cloud' when the hosting server is peered.
>> Each other server can choose to carry or not carry any particular group.
>> It can also choose to which posts to carry within a group - they can
>> censor because of foul language for instance.
>>
>> Did you even look at this the last time I posted it? It give a pretty
>> good basic overview of the system.
>>
>> http://people.dsv.su.se/~jpalme/e-mail-book/usenet-news.html
>
> Of course I studied it. You've been my mentor for years! (Thanks, btw!)
>
> It says " The procedure for distribution of news can be compared to
> pouring water onto a flat surface; the water flows out in all directions
> (see the figure below)."
>
> So *who* pours the water - and how?
>
> Surely that's not too difficult a question to answer.
>
> Have you not noticed how few *real* test posts are made here?
>
The server that you share a client-to-server relationship with will 
inject your message. The peering of server-to-server that follows does 
the spilling. Somewhere, someone else with a different server-to-client 
relationship will read the article - your client and the server that you 
connected with are no longer in the picture.

Of course, the server that you use *can* put identification in the 
header, but otherwise the receiving client has no idea of the IP# you 
originated the post with.