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richard wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 12:31:19 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:
>
>> FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>>> FromTheRafters *appears* to be saying this statement is wrong:-
>>>>
>>>>> Or if you want to host the group yourself then go out and purchase a
>>>>> Server with a server OS and get a dedicated T3 line and off you go. You
>>>>> will have complete control of the group and you will also be able to
>>>>> delete posters that post to your group without any effort and at your
>>>>> will and whim. (statement made by P. Foldes)
>>
>> *
>>>> So how *does* the first post of a new group get 'out there' and
>>>> propagated around Usenet?
>> *
>>
>>> Hosting a group is different from creating a group.
>>
>> I understand that!
>>
>>> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/alt-creation-guide/
>>> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/creating-newsgroups/part1/
>>
>> Thank you. Very informative information.
>>
>> I believe there is truth in what Foldes has said (although I'm quite
>> certain that a T3 connection is unnecessary!)
>>
>> I _suspect_ that *if* the person hosting a specific newsgroup
>> ('test.here', for instance) wishes, they could, indeed, have access to
>> the IP address of anyone/everyone connecting to that newsgroup and, as
>> PF says, delete individual posts from the group.
>>
>> Surely someone other than PF has an answer?!!
>
> You may have seen some websites that carry a certain number of newsgroups.
> This is done through scripting and an active account just as you would have
> on your own machine.
> It varies from site to site as to how often "headers" are updated.
> You ask, can the owner delete the posts based on an IP?
> If it is a website, yes.
> That's nothing more than operating the newsgroup as a standard bulletin
> board. However, IP's may not always be correct. I'd say that the IP that is
> shown would be the one coming from the news service that post originated
> from, not the individual poster.
> So if you deleted based on an IP, then you'd wind up deleting all the posts
> from that service.
> Because a certain person was going around cancelling usenet messages by the
> thousands, servers began to deny cancellations by third parties, and then
> many decided not to accept cancel requests at all.
> So once it got posted, it's there for the duration.
>
> A T1 connection is the absolute minimum one would need for operating a news
> server. Then, it would have to be a dedicated server as well.

Thanks for responding, Richard. :-)

FYI, Peter Foldes has such a connection!

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.security.homeusers/msg/60d18057a6ef92e3

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