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Article #169Re: Randy Weaver's Return From Ruby Ridge
From: Eye of the Storm
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 01:13
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 01:13
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:27:09 -0700, "Harry" <hmagnan@NOpacbellSPAM.net> wrote: >What a buch of BS. I'll credit the writer with being very creative, and very disingenuous. All in all, a good bit of urban legend. And why is it urban legend? > >First, California does not have mandatory trigger locks or a mandatory storage law. In fact, the governor of California put a moratorium on all new gun laws when he was elected. That moratoruim hasn't been lifted. > >Second, there is no record of this incident in any paper in California, including the Merced Sun-Star. http://www.mercedsun-star.com You need to bone up on your search skills, Harry. I would guess that the parents of Ashley and John would prefer not to think of their children being murdered as urban legend. Still, it's shocking to see how quickly these things are forgotten. From the Los Angeles Times: Man Shot After Stabbing Children With Pitchfork Thursday, August 24, 2000 Home Edition ID: 0000079447 Part A Section Byline: From Associated Press 236 words A man broke into a home and fatally stabbed two children with a pitchfork Wednesday before being shot and killed by authorities, the Merced Sheriff's Department said. From the Fresno Bee: HEROINE IN DEATH , Published on December 31, 2000, Page 10, Article 1 of 23 found, 190 words. Together in a family snapshot, sister Ashley Danielle Carpenter, 9, and her brother, John William Carpenter, 7, were rarely apart in life. Now, in death, they are buried side by side in a single casket, next to their grandparents at a small cemetery on the side of a hill in Mariposa. The children were killed Aug. 23 when a stranger entered their rural Merced home and attacked them with a spading fork. The attacker, Jonathon David Bruce, 27, later was fatally shot by police. The children's parent CARPENTER KIDS RESTING TOGETHER THEIR FATHER SAYS: 'I KNOW WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT WHERE MY CHILDREN ARE TODAY.' Kimi Yoshino THE FRESNO BEE, Published on August 31, 2000, Page A1, Article 15 of 23 found, 962 words. Some were friends, some strangers, but the crowd that gathered Wednesday shared a common grief over the death of two innocent children who were slain in their home by a pitchfork-wielding man."They reached out with their little fingers and touched the heart of an entire world," the Rev. John Hilton said.Ashley and John William Carpenter, ages 9 and 7, respectively, were buried Wednesday, one week after Jonathon David Bruce -- a man suspected of being under the influence of drugs -- broke into th CHILDREN'S WOUNDS DETAILED MERCED STABBING VICTIMS ARE EXAMINED OVER FAMILY PROTEST. Kimi Yoshino THE FRESNO BEE, Published on August 29, 2000, Page A1, Article 16 of 23 found, 715 words. More than 100 stab wounds covered 9-year-old Ashley Carpenter's body: one leg, both arms, her torso, head, neck and face. Her brother John William, 8, suffered more than 40.The autopsy performed Monday over the objections of the siblings' family revealed a brutality even more shocking than last week's news that two Merced children were attacked by a pitchfork-wielding man at their rural home."This was one of the most difficult deaths I've ever had to deal with," Merced County Sheriff-Coroner Tom MERCED POLICE ARREST SUSPECT IN FATAL SHOOTING MAN SUSPECTED OF KILLING HIS BROTHER-IN-LAW TURNS HIMSELF IN TO AUTHORITIES. Jennifer M. Fitzenberger THE FRESNO BEE, Published on August 28, 2000, Page B1, Article 17 of 23 found, 407 words. A man police say gunned down his brother-in-law turned himself in Sunday night after being at large for several hours, police said.Jerry Wayne Shue, 36, fatally shot James Covert in the upper torso with a rifle after waking him at his home early Sunday morning, Merced Police Cmdr. Tom Martin said.Covert, 44, died at Memorial Medical Center in Modesto shortly after the 5 a.m. shooting. Covert's wife and a teen-ager were in the home at the time of the incident, Martin said.Sunday's homicide comes AND NOW, THE HEALING BEGINS WHILE MERCED FAMILY FIGHTS AUTOPSIES ON THE PITCHFORK VICTIMS, A PASTOR PREPARES TO PREACH. Louis Galvan and Pablo Lopez THE FRESNO BEE, Published on August 27, 2000, Page A1, Article 18 of 23 found, 878 words. Though born with different personalities, slain siblings Ashley and John William Carpenter were best friends -- you never saw one without the other, relatives said.They will soon be buried together in the same casket.The siblings' parents, John and Tephanie Carpenter, decided to bury their children Wednesday at Mariposa Cemetery, the Rev. John Hilton said Saturday.But before that happens, a more difficult decision must be made by Merced County Sheriff-Coroner Tom Sawyer. He must decide whether t NO EASY ANSWERS GUN ADVOCATES SAY FEAR OF LIABILITY KEEPS PARENTS FROM TEACHING SURVIVAL SKILLS. Kimi Yoshino THE FRESNO BEE, Published on August 26, 2000, Page A1, Article 19 of 23 found, 641 words. The first thing Jessica Carpenter asked for was a gun.When the 14-year-old girl ran to a nearby house to escape the pitchfork-wielding man attacking her siblings, she didn't ask her neighbor to call 9-1-1. She begged him to grab his rifle and "take care of this guy."By the time Merced County sheriff's deputies arrived at her home in rural Merced, her 7-year-old brother, John William, was dead. So was her younger sister, Ashley Danielle, 9.On Friday, the children's great-uncle, the Rev. John Hilt NO EASY ANSWERS JOHN CARPENTER DEALS WITH HIS FAMILY'S TRAGIC LOSS WITHOUT ANGER AND WITH HEALING WORDS OF LOVE. Kimi Yoshino and George Hostetter THE FRESNO BEE, Published on August 26, 2000, Page A1, Article 20 of 23 found, 1973 words. Late Thursday night, John Carpenter peeked into the darkened living room of the home on the outskirts of this central Valley city where he and his family are staying temporarily.On the floor were Carpenter's surviving children plus some of their close friends. The place looked like a wall-to-wall sea of pillows, blankets and girls. After some 36 hours of unimaginable horror and anguish, Carpenter and his family finally had a moment of peace."They were in there, all of them sound asleep, arm-in-a SISTERS TELL OF TERROR ATTACK SHATTERS SENSE OF SAFETY George Hostetter and Lesli A. Maxwell THE FRESNO BEE, Published on August 25, 2000, Page A1, Article 21 of 23 found, 656 words. Could it happen to me and my family?That is the fearful question many residents in this Central Valley city are asking after an intruder broke into a home just outside Merced Wednesday morning and stabbed to death two children with a pitchfork.Jonathon David Bruce killed Ashley Danielle Carpenter, 9, and John William Carpenter, 7, after forcing his way into their home while their parents were gone. Unemployed and a known user of illegal drugs, the 27-year-old Bruce was shot and killed by Merced SISTERS TELL OF TERROR ASHLEY CARPENTER, 9, SAVED HER TWO SIBLINGS BY GIVING HER OWN LIFE. George Hostetter and Lesli A. Maxwell THE FRESNO BEE, Published on August 25, 2000, Page A1, Article 22 of 23 found, 1826 words. In a horrific struggle between good and evil, a 9-year-old girl pleaded with a naked intruder who invaded her family's rural home and terrorized her siblings with a pitchfork.Ashley Carpenter was screaming, "Stop it, don't hurt my sister" when the attacker, Jonathon David Bruce, turned the weapon on her. Bruce pinned Ashley's small body to the wall and stabbed her to death as she fell to the floor, begging for her life.Bruce also killed Ashley's 7-year-old brother, John William, as he lay sleepi PITCHFORK ATTACKER KILLS KIDS MAN BREAKS INTO A RURAL MERCED HOME AND STABS TWO YOUNGSTERS TO DEATH IN THEIR BEDS. BEE NEWS SERVICES, Published on August 24, 2000, Page A1, Article 23 of 23 found, 677 words. Merced County sheriff's officials said they had no clue late Wednesday about the identity of a man shot and killed by deputies after he broke into a home and fatally stabbed two children with a pitchfork."Somebody's in my house that I don't know; they're stabbing my brother and sister with a pitchfork," 14-year-old Jessica Lynne Carpenter cried to an emergency dispatcher just moments after escaping the attack with her two sisters. "I don't know who it is. I just woke up and he was in the house."
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