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Re: Randy Weaver's Return From Ruby Ridge

#170
From: The Lexx
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 04:07
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Not BS Harry:

NO EASY ANSWERS GUN ADVOCATES SAY FEAR OF LIABILITY KEEPS PARENTS FROM
TEACHING SURVIVAL SKILLS.

Kimi Yoshino THE FRESNO BEE, Published on August 26, 2000, Page A1, Article
2 of 7 found, 641 words.
The first thing Jessica Carpenter asked for was a gun.When the 14-year-old
girl ran to a nearby house to escape the pitchfork-wielding man attacking
her siblings, she didn't ask her neighbor to call 9-1-1. She begged him to
grab his rifle and "take care of this guy."By the time Merced County
sheriff's deputies arrived at her home in rural Merced, her 7-year-old
brother, John William, was dead. So was her younger sister, Ashley Danielle,
9.On Friday, the children's great-uncle, the Rev. John Hilt




NO EASY ANSWERS JOHN CARPENTER DEALS WITH HIS FAMILY'S TRAGIC LOSS WITHOUT
ANGER AND WITH HEALING WORDS OF LOVE.

Kimi Yoshino and George Hostetter THE FRESNO BEE, Published on August 26,
2000, Page A1, Article 3 of 7 found, 1973 words.
Late Thursday night, John Carpenter peeked into the darkened living room of
the home on the outskirts of this central Valley city where he and his
family are staying temporarily.On the floor were Carpenter's surviving
children plus some of their close friends. The place looked like a
wall-to-wall sea of pillows, blankets and girls. After some 36 hours of
unimaginable horror and anguish, Carpenter and his family finally had a
moment of peace."They were in there, all of them sound asleep, arm-in-a



"Harry" <hmagnan@NOpacbellSPAM.net> wrote in message
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What a buch of BS. I'll credit the writer with being very creative, and very
disingenuous. All in all, a good bit of urban legend. And why is it urban
legend?

First, California does not have mandatory trigger locks or a mandatory
storage law. In fact, the governor of California put a moratorium on all new
gun laws when he was elected. That moratoruim hasn't been lifted.

Second, there is no record of this incident in any paper in California,
including the Merced Sun-Star. http://www.mercedsun-star.com

Third, the reference to other murders in the area, and specifically the
reference to John Carptenter, the convicted murder of the previously
mentioned offenses.

Fourth, California does not prohibit the use of guns. In fact, it leads the
nation in the number of concealed guns permits. All it takes for a concealed
permit is the ok from a local sheriff. Those are pretty easy to obtain in
rural California.

Fifth, refering to her last paragraph, I don't believe the state of
California has ever advocated a total ban on guns.




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