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"John" <johnwhardin2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Invictus" <tld1@Qwest.net> wrote in message
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> > Addendum
>
> Thank you for posting your thoughful observations. I'm going to pass
> these posting to other groups.
>
> JWH
>
>
> >
> > By the way, if those low-life descendants of Aztec, Maya and Inca raped
by
> > the Conquistadors had tried to come here before the United States was
> > established, no doubt the Apache (whose entire life-style was based on
war,
> > much like the Spartans) would have kicked their asses all the way back
to
> > South America, just for spite. The U.S Army spent more money on the
Apache
> > Wars (about 30-40 years of them) than on all of its other wars combined.
At
> > least through Vietnam, which was the last I'd heard.
> >
> > Invictus <tld1@Qwest.net> wrote in message
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> > > I've  just come back from a bar, at which I had  a rather interesting
> > > argument with a liberal who eventually objected to my commitment
against
> >  the
> > > Latino invasion. I hope that I can do the line of reasoning justice in
> >  this
> > > post, for the benefit of us who have a real right to live in these
United
> > > States.
> > >
> > > The conversation began when he noticed that I had brought a copy of
Julius
> > > Caesar's "Gallic Wars" to the bar. I explained to him that when I
first
> >  got
> > > the book I rather quickly read through the first five chapters
("libri",
> >  in
> > > Latin). During that time I was always amazed to find that, apparently,
> > > Caesar was just some "asshole" that took a bunch of thugs from his
home
> >  town
> > > (Rome) and said: "Hey! I'll bet there are some people on the other
side of
> > > that mountain! Let's go there, kick their asses, rape there women,
steal
> > > their food and make them pay taxes to us for rest of their lives!"
[Kind
> >  of
> > > reminds you of Latinos, doesn't it? Only, with an aire of nobility.]
But,
> >  a
> > > couple of months after I'd stopped reading the book, it finally dawned
on
> >  me
> > > that: It is generally considered a "euphemism" when Caesar wrote about
> > > himself as having "brought 'peace' to the province"; however, Caesar
only
> > > did to them what they had been doing to each other for uncounted
> > > generations. And, after a Roman army had conquered a province, no
other
> >  army
> > > was allowed to make war with it, without incurring the wrath of Rome!
The
> > > lack of war allowed trade, and learning, to grow. Even though one
could
> >  only
> > > consider the taxes as being "stolen" from a people who had not agreed
to
> >  the
> > > arrangement (almost, but not quite, as with our own IRS... the
bastards!)
> > > the empire has ever since been held in fond memory as the symbol of
order
> > > and stability.
> > >
> > > This refers to the principle of sovereignty. The only excuse for war
is
> >  that
> > > things must finally be "decided' by force. And, once war is resorted
to,
> > > there is no "higher" court that mortal man has recourse to. The One
> >  Almighty
> > > God (whoever, or whatever, one considers him to be) has made no
provision
> > > for any mortal to demand Justice of Him, personally! Therefore,
unpleasant
> > > as it may be, and regardless of anyone's opinion on the subject, war
must
> >  me
> > > recognized as the final arbiter of right and wrong. History is written
by
> > > the victors, like it or not. The best that one can do it to try to
make
> >  his
> > > own personal judgments on higher (or, more abstract principles, or
> >  concepts)
> > > of right and wrong. The Nazis lost the war, therefore, they were
wrong.
> >  And,
> > > that is the basis upon which all later judgments, in lesser "courts"
shall
> > > be made, for generations to come. [Until the next war, since man's
wars
> >  are
> > > both less than, and other than, the One absolute Truth.]
> > >
> > > So now, we come to the WASP conquest of what is now the USA. The
people
> >  did
> > > not come here to displace another civilization. The Indians (of which,
by
> > > the way, I am partly descended) were not a single nation-civilization,
but
> >  a
> > > group of "nations" consisting of wandering bands. The never
established
> > > anything resembling a continuous civilization, even when one considers
the
> > > rather successful city-states which rose, and fell, over the millennia
> > > before the WASP invasion. The WASP's arrived to finally bring to this
land
> >  a
> > > true "nation". And, that nation became the greatest in the history of
the
> > > world. Although not a WASP, I consider myself privileged to be
descended
> > > from the people who built it. [But, as Confucius said, "The glory
belongs
> >  to
> > > our ancestors."]
> > >
> > > Contrast this to what Latinos, like Villaraigosa (recently failed
> >  candidate
> > > for Los Angeles, CA, mayor), who want to do to the United States. Even
> > > though it is, apparently, past its prime, since they have never (in
there
> > > entire history) been able to create a viable economic, social,
political
> >  or
> > > military (et al.) infrastructure, they seek to "steal" a peace of a
dying
> > > one. [No better, in this sense, than rats, or cockroaches, as the
white
> > > supremacists refer to them.] Even being in possession of their own
> >  sovereign
> > > nations (unlike the descendants of African slaves in this country),
with
> >  all
> > > the resources that the New World has to offer, they still refuse to
stop
> > > oppressing each other with there internal racial bigotries just long
> >  enough
> > > to create a nation worth living in. Unlike the WASP's who flew here to
> > > escape religious persecution, the Spaniards came here to rape, pillage
and
> > > plunder there future well-being from innocent parties. And, the Latino
> > > doesn't try all that hard to hide the fact that this is just what the
> >  intend
> > > to do to the United States! They think that if they can displace the
> > > language, culture, customs, traditions, et al. along with the
ethnicity of
> > > this land, then they will have at least of few years of "success",
when in
> > > fact all that they could really accomplish is the ruin everything for
> > > everyone.
> > >
> > > The nation of Spain [The real one, not the Latinos.] Paid dearly for
this
> > > mistake. Taking what gold that they found as an end unto itself,
rather
> >  than
> > > the means to humanitarian ends, nearly destroyed the nation. Consider
just
> > > how little use they were to ANYONE, during either of the two world
wars.
> > > [Even Italy, as little respected as it was on either side, had more
> > > importance.] I recall that, in his sermon on the book of Ecclesiastes
> > > entitled, "Living on the Ragged Edge", pastor Chuck Swindoll said,
"God
> >  will
> > > send some people will go from job to job, from city to city, from
> > > relationship to relationship, until finally they realize that THEY
> > > themselves, ARE THE PROBLEM.] So it was with the Conquistadors, and so
it
> >  is
> > > with the Latino interlopers. They are continuing to commit the same
sins
> > > that their Spanish forbearers committed against their Indian
forbearers,
> > > only this time against the innocents of their neighbors to the north.
Just
> > > as Rome truly did bring "peace" to the provinces that it conquered, by
> > > ensuring that they could neither war against each other, nor be warred
> >  upon
> > > by an outside province, the Mexicans were lucky to have what land that
the
> > > USA left to them.
> > >
> > > The United States had no part, whatsoever, in creating the problems of
> >  these
> > > descendants of Aztec, Maya, and Inca (et al.) degenerate
civilizations.
> >  And,
> > > as for the Spanish, and Mexican, -American Wars, the sovereignty
question
> > > has been settled (as I've already described) by the highest humanly
> > > comprehensible court that has ever been. It is the old idea of the
"power
> > > vacuum". The border of sovereignty exists, and has a reason for
existing,
> > > long ago agreed upon by both nations. It makes no sense to claim that
"we
> > > all  human beings" as if borders had no rhyme or reason. It may appear
so
> > > when you are sitting in a space shuttle, but try to explain that to
> >  someone
> > > after you come back down to earth! In his book "The Perennial
Philosophy"
> > > Aldous Huxley spoke of the folly of someone who understands in only
the
> > > intellectual sense that "time and eternity are one". It is true that
all
> > > things (matter and energy, alike) must necessarily be composed of the
> >  "prima
> > > materia", and that there must necessarily be some resolution for the
> > > apparent contradiction of fate and free will. [Both of which can be
> >  "proven"
> > > as true, but both, at the same time, being mutually exclusive).]
However,
> > > until you have come to personal, unitive and direct Knowledge of this
> > > yourself, you can only invite catastrophe by preaching it to another.
And,
> > > if you really had come to such knowledge of what Huxley called "the
divine
> > > ground" then this Truth would be apparent to your audience long before
> >  THEY
> > > ever thought to pose any question touching upon it, because your
Knowledge
> > > would be evidenced in your every word and deed.
> > >
> > > Furthermore, those who seek in this present day to unify the world
under
> >  one
> > > "New World Order" are similarly, and fatally, mistaken. There is
nothing
> >  in
> > > this world which all cultures can look to as any form of common
language
> >  by
> > > which agreements can be made, and maintained. Not music, not
mathematics
> >  (by
> > > itself), and certainly no spoken or written language. Not even Latin.
> > > Therefore, any government that could possibly be devised at this
point,
> > > would quite necessarily be oppressive to all but the culture which was
in
> > > power at the time. This is at least one very good reason why
sovereignty
> > > must ultimately rest in the hands of all those who are governed by it.
> > > Remember the many French Revolutions? Remember the birth of the Magna
> > > Carter? Remember any one of a myriad other instances of governments
being,
> > > to the surprise of those in power, overthrown? Those who fail to
remember
> > > history are doomed to repeat it. Continually, in the past couple of
> >  decades,
> > > I have seen both sides of "the Powers that Be" making the same
mistakes
> >  that
> > > they claim that they want to be forever ended after the war with the
Nazi.
> >  I
> > > am shocked and disgusted by the all pervasiveness of propaganda,
beginning
> > > no later than the early 20th century.
> > >
> > > This post has grown long enough, and I don't want to confuse the point
> >  about
> > > Latin American imperialism at the expense of the (formerly) greatest
> > > civilization in the history of the world. I'm only sorry that it may
be
> >  over
> > > before anyone in my family line was ever able to take full advantage
of
> >  it.
> > > And, writing this with an alcohol soaked brain, very many years after
I'd
> > > stopped practicing my writing abilities, I thank Our Lord Jesus the
Christ
> > > (Solo Deo Gloria! As Johann S. Bach would say.) for how well I've been
> >  able
> > > to set this down, in spite of myself.
> > >
> > >