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Article #10965FLA BANK BARS NONCUSTOMERS FROM LOBBY (was Crestar....)
From: A. Engler Anderson
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 00:00
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 00:00
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Fingerprinting non-account holders who present checks for encashment has become STANDARD PRACTICE at virtually every bank I know here in Miami (in addition, of course, to a 2-ID policy, and presumably a security videotape being made of all persons in the bank lobby). But the banks down here don't stop there at treating non-customers like pariahs and criminals: 1) Barnett Bank in Miami Beach (just purchased by the odious monopolist Hugh McColl of NationsBank) hs installed large signs at its drive-through saying non-account holders must present checks for cashing in the bank lobby and not to a drive-through teller. For YEARS, the bank had no problem accomodating non-account holders who presented their account holders' check for payment. This is FLORIDA and most folks drive to the bank. 2) SunTrust Bank here in Miami Beach (SunTrust is reputed to be a takeover target of Wachovia) has BARRED NON-CUSTOMERS FROM ITS INDOOR LOBBY BANKING FLOOR ENTIRELY! Big signs and and a newly-installed security desk direct non-account holders to an outside walk-up window, where on Fridays long lines of (mostly well dressed) non-customers wait on the sidewalk to have their SunTrust checks honored. With fingerprinting, of course. Now, hearing reports that some banks are now charging non-customers to honor checks, I wonder if a group of affected consumers could mount some kind of legal action against the offending banks. Presumably, a bank has an obligation [CITATION, EXCERPTS PLEASE!] under the Uniform Commerical Code to honor valid checks and drafts presented to it. What legal theories are being used to justify the imposition of fees on the payee? Morally, I would also think that a bank is paying a check as a service to the drawer. Now, it seems to me that a bank, as an agent of a payee, is morally obliged to fulfill its customer's payment order (i.e., a check) in a professional manner that is not degrading or insulting to the payee -- considering that the payee is also in a commerical relationship of one sort or another with the principal (the drawer). If course, it would follow that a bank has a vested interest of its own (aside from fraud prevention) in detering payees from presenting their checks for immediate encashment. A depository institution profits on the float when a check is deposited to a payee's own account in another bank (or a check cashing firm's account). Thus, a bank has a very good reason to do all it can to deter payees from seeking immediate, in-person payment. Fingerprinting and other sundry inconveniences probably go far in accomplishing this goal, I would think. Now, where are all the consumers federations, Ralph Naders and Public Citizens organizations on an issue like this? I personally think banks that refuse to pleasantly and in a dignified manner honor their depositors' checks are really doing harm to the depositors by devaluating in the minds of third parties the value of their checks. In other words, service people, maids, babysitters -- perhaps even retailers -- may become less likely to accept checks, fearing a time-consuming and undignified wait at the bank. But given the quasi-public nature of a bank (it receives a government charter and is allowed to participate in the Federal Reserve System), I would also think it is more exposed to regulatory and political action than most businesses. Thus, were public interest organizations and concerned citizens to make more noise to regulators, banks would have no choice but to back down, fearing greater regulation. In theory, anyway. So when you folks encounter these indignities, by all means issue a sheaf-full of complaints (by snail mail, certified mail if you can afford it) to state and federal banking regulators, consumer affairs agencies and your state and federal legislators -- making sure to cc the bank's president and the branch manager. And if you are really peeved, try to put your regulatory complaints in the form of an official filing under the state or federal Administrative Procedures Acts. This means your complaint will be dealt with at a level considerably higher than a customer relations drone. Don't get too technical about issues like "standing." Just allege what you need to and let the chips fall where they may. Even if summarily rejected by a hearing officer, the complaint will definitely be noticed. A fundamental right (they never tell you how in civics classes!) is the ability to petition the government. Dealing with regulatory complaints and inquires costs lots of money [bank lawyers and well paid regulatory compliance staff] for financial institutions. So at least you can have the satisfaction of getting back, even if your efforts do not lead to regulatory or legislative intervention. Any thoughts?
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1038e3,bd68304469da4d0a X-Google-Attributes: gid1038e3,public X-Google-Thread: 101049,bd68304469da4d0a X-Google-Attributes: gid101049,public X-Google-Thread: 107518,6a2050cc875c3006 X-Google-Attributes: gid107518,public X-Google-Thread: 104271,bd68304469da4d0a X-Google-Attributes: gid104271,public X-Google-Thread: f4d80,bd68304469da4d0a X-Google-Attributes: gidf4d80,public From: expnews@netaxs.com (A. Engler Anderson) Subject: FLA BANK BARS NONCUSTOMERS FROM LOBBY (was Crestar....) Date: 1997/09/06 Message-ID: <5uso0j$m3c@netaxs.com> X-Deja-AN: 270345596 References: <5ujs1c$i1t3@beaker.nit.gwu.edu> <3410612B.F7F@ix.netcom.com> <3410531E.7E0C@wco.com> <341373c3.3208878@news.mindspring.com> <34107C6C.FC9@wco.com> <341dd127.27119849@news.mindspring.com> <5uscf9$pod$1@gte1.gte.net> Followup-To: misc.consumers,misc.legal,alt.law-enforcement,alt.privacy,dc.general Distribution: priority Organization: Net Access - Philadelphia's Original ISP Newsgroups: misc.consumers,misc.legal,alt.law-enforcement,alt.privacy,dc.general