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Article #8540Re: Should this man have been convicted?
From: Commonsense
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 15:00
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 15:00
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amp_spamfree@yahoo.com (amp_spamfree) wrote in message news:<1192abe3.0302070235.7623545d@posting.google.com>... > justsayknow1@hotmail.com (Commonsense) wrote in message news:<b63b43e.0302062111.54aff87b@posting.google.com>... > > amp_spamfree@yahoo.com (amp_spamfree) wrote in message news:<1192abe3.0302060506.17155754@posting.google.com>... > > > "Joe Winett" <joe@vigoris.net> wrote in message news:<3e414659$1@news.vigoris.net>... > > I have yet to see any evidence of this other than some quotes from his > supporters. I simply raised the question - was he in compliance with > the legislation (not the proposition) in force in California at that > time. > Honestly, the best answer I can give you here is that I have seen nothing to indicate that he was in violation of state law. As I understand it the law is particularly vague and no guidelines exist for setting up growing cooperatives or distributing the product. The city of Oakland apparantly felt they were in compliance with state law and no state officials appear to have complained. Don't forget, Rosenthal was actually "deputized" by the city of Oakland for the purpose of doing what he was doing and was doing all of this completely out in the open. He was a city official. If you look into this you'll see that local governments in California have been the only ones actually setting any standards. The state legislature has stayed out of it. The governor is actually on record as being opposed to medical marijuana or at least the initiative passed in his state. I suppose the state has in effect deferred running the programs to the local authorities. This is just my guess. I've never even been to California and only have cursory knowledge of their medical marijuana laws. > > > As far as the federal law is concerned, its legality was upheld by the > > > Supreme Court which is substantive evidence that it is a "good" law. > > > The US SC is the final say so on those issues - that's their job and > > > whether you agree or disagree with their rulings, only Congress can > > > overturn by writing new legislation. > > > > I'm not sure exactly which law you are refering to > > The DEA scheduling of marijuana which classes it as not having > medicinal value. > In the context of this scheduling law, "good" is in the eye of the beholder. I'd say the law is a lie. I'd also say that just because the feds have a law does not necessarily always mean it applies in states or "trumps" state law as you will so often hear. This is not exactly what the Constitution says. But of course, what the Constitution says is not so important as what the Supreme Court says it means. We'll see how all of this plays out. I'm really hoping the feds are pushed back on this one. I like the idea of having a strong federal government, but not one that oversteps it's bounds as contemplated by the framers of our Constitution.
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