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Article #8640Re: Don't you just love America?
From: Tiny Human Ferret
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 03:48
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 03:48
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"Dave C." wrote:
>
> > Actually, the data on the costs of illegal aliens isn't as well-documented
> > as you might think.An argument has been made, at least, that when they
> hold
> > jobs under false identities, they contribute to Social Security, Medicate,
> > and pay income tax, none of which will ever come back to them. Some
> people
> > think (and I disagree with them) that the only reason we haven't cracked
> > down harder on illegals is that they are all that is keeping Social
> Security
> > afloat. I'm not saying this is a correctd argument, but certainly you
> have
> > to include these figures in any valid estimates of the "costs of
> illegals."
> >
> >
>
> Who is actually contributing to SS, Medicare, etc? It's not the illegal
> aliens. These monies are WITHHELD from their paychecks and sent to the
> government by the EMPLOYERS. So where do the employers get the money?
> Mostly from U.S. citizens. The illegal aliens aren't paying one red cent to
> Social Security. -Dave
Actually, this is untrue. Many illegal aliens do -- under assumed ID and
falsified or fabricated SS numbers -- contribute to both the general tax
base and to Social Security as well.
However, now that the SSA is sending out a lot of "the numbers you gave us
are in error, please check the employees" letters, less and less will be
paying into FICA or to the general tax base. Note that IRS (NOT INS!) will
soon be going after the employers for submitting false taxpayer information.
--
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