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Article #9062Re: How Does This Happen?
From: krw
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:38
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:38
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In article <2uen94115gdsnmktcrllf1sr9306bcgjqt@4ax.com>, scottenaztlan@yahoo.com says... > In message > <dc64fddb-49b4-4796-914a-045b75378e1a@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, > spamtrap1888@gmail.com wrote: > > >The vendor does not initiate the EFT, the customer does when he sticks > >his debit card in the vendor's machine. Inserting the debit card is > >the same as writing the check and mailing it. If vendors could > >initiate EFTs they could suck your balance dry at any time. > > Um, vendors CAN and DO initiate EFTs. For example, one of the payment > options at amazon.com allows you to give them your checking account > and bank ABA routing numbers; when they ship your order, they will > initiate an EFT debit to your checking account without you having to > swipe your debit card (assuming you even have one) through a reader. Good grief. Of course they CAN, if you give them the authority. > Now, you could argue that the customer "initiated" the EFT debit by > giving Amazon their checking accuont info, but there's nothing to stop > Amazon from "accidentally" issuing additional debits, or a debit for > the wrong amount, or deciding to renew your Amazon Prime membership > via an EFT debit, etc. Once they have your account info, a merchant > can initiate EFT debits at will; unless you contest them, the bank > will automatically assume those debits to be valid. Dumb idea to do so, huh? ...though it's no different than sending them (or paying anyone with) a paper check. -- Keith
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