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Article #9063Re: How Does This Happen?
From: krw
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:27
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:27
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In article <nndv94d7hgjg49oej5fl2203te3ogecs3c@4ax.com>, scottenaztlan@yahoo.com says... > In message <MPG.23096fcbe1bf679e989fbb@news.individual.net>, krw > <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > > >> The problem is the banking system favors merchants, not consumers. For > >> example, even before Check-21 was active, banks allowed merchants to > >> convert paper checks into EFT debits, eliminating the "float." The > >> merchant can then destroy your check. In other words, the banks ASSUME > >> that every EFT debit coming in from a merchant is correct, and they > >> don't even have to produce the original check as proof. A software > >> glitch (or outright fraud) could cause an EFT debit to your account, > >> and unless you complain it will be treated as valid. > > > >Wrong. They must produce at least a facsimile of the check upon > >request (challenge). > > And therein lies the problem: the bank ASSUMES that the electronic > debit is correct *unless* the customer complains. After a few days > when the merchant is unable to produce an acceptable substitute check, > then the consumer might get his money back (and all his bounced check > fees reimbursed). In the meantime, you get to enjoy all the stress and > hassle this "mistake" will cause you. And heaven help you if you're > one of those folks who never balance their checkbooks and thus fail to > spot the error. Boo Hoo! If you're ripe for picking, you will be picked. It doesn't take an EFTS to do it. > >> The entire system is biased in favor of merchants, so you'll never see > >> any rule that favors consumers. > > > >No, it's biased in favor of the banks. > > So you agree that the deck is stacked AGANST the consumer. No more so than anything else in this world. The consumer has the ultimate power; don't buy. If you choose to be an idiot, you will be. -- Keith
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