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Re: Whatever happened to property rights

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From: Sanity
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:48
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"Brent P" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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> In article <3ZXxj.639$4m3.152@bignews7.bellsouth.net>, Sanity wrote:
>>
>> "Brent P" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>> In article <O4Vxj.562$4m3.208@bignews7.bellsouth.net>, Sanity wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Amy Blankenship" <Amy_nospam@magnoliamultimedia.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OvUxj.866$Fs5.37@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
>>>>> news:54ea1371-7477-4577-818d-520a1b93627b@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Feb 28, 6:07 am, "Sanity" <sanerthan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "1100GS_rider" <bmw110...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>> news:1icztpj.19wmq39dm3xeN%bmw1100gs@hotmail.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> there is a law
>>>>>> >> (not a HOA rule, but an actual city ordinance) which prohibits
>>>>>> >> leaving
>>>>>> >> your garage door open longer than necessary. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > That's appalling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone enlighten me on something? Unless you are working in your
>>>>>> garage what is the purpose of leaving a garage door open.
>>>>>
>>>>> The purpose of keeping your garage open is quite simple.  It's your
>>>>> garage and you should be able to do as you want.  The purpose of
>>>>> keeping your door open is that it is your right.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amy started another post says "What ever happened to property
>>>>> rights".  Well, this is exactly what happened.  Somebody thought they
>>>>> knew what was better for you than you knew yourself, so they stopped
>>>>> you from doing it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It isn't appalling that someone leaves their garage open.  It's
>>>>> appalling that someone would think that they have the right to tell
>>>>> you to close it.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for "not longer than necessary"; I'd love to see the definition of
>>>>> "necessary".  I think I'd find a reason to keep it open for weeks at a
>>>>> time.
>>>>> ------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> I've got to disagree with you.  The purpose of a HOA is so that people
>>>>> who like to be told what to do and tell others what to do can live 
>>>>> with
>>>>> like-minded people.  They all agreed to it, so if that floats their
>>>>> boat...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't get me wrong. There are a lot of things that are bad with HOA's. 
>>>> A
>>>> Nazi on the board can make your life miserable. However saying that,
>>>> there
>>>> are quite a few things that are good. Everyone's lawn is kept mown.
>>>> Driveways clean. Houses painted in acceptable colors. Now, if HOA's are
>>>> so
>>>> bad see how their value is kept better than a stand alone house in many
>>>> cases.
>>>> I live in an HOA. This is my 3rd. I knew what I was getting into when I
>>>> bought the house. I carefully read the covenants and nothing about them
>>>> irritated me. The builder has some small sites right down the road 
>>>> where
>>>> he
>>>> could put one house on each.   The exact home in my development is 
>>>> worth
>>>> 30-40000 more than the stand alones. Why? Everything is perfectly
>>>> maintained
>>>> here, no pickups on the lawns, pleasant color scheme, etc.
>>>> I found in my 3 HOA experiences, the ones that bitched the most are the
>>>> ones
>>>> that didn't read the covenants before purchasing. Whose fault was that?
>>>
>>> No retired people with nothing better to do than complain about anything
>>> and everything? The flowers aren't the right color, the such and such
>>> work was done wrong, such and such has to be done, the board is full of
>>> morons, so and so's grass is 3mm too long, so and so's car looks bad, so
>>> and so's dog is 3lbs too heavy, etc etc endlessly on and on..... I find
>>> that hard to believe.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> That's bullsh-t.  It's not that bad. Have you ever lived in an HOA?
>
> My experiences are from being on a condo board. I cannot believe the sort
> of people I've dealt with are any better if they are living in house
> where there is an HOA.
>
>

Condos are 1000 times worse than HOA's. Yes, you have your bitchers and 
moaners but in the main most people were ok. I was president of the board 
for one year. We had one board member that thought he was Saddam Hussein. He 
tried to make everyone miserable within the first few weeks he was on the 
board. I called an emergency meeting and we fired him from the board. 
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