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In article <akZxj.675$4m3.583@bignews7.bellsouth.net>, Sanity wrote:
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> "Brent P" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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>> In article <3ZXxj.639$4m3.152@bignews7.bellsouth.net>, Sanity wrote:
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>>> "Brent P" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>> In article <O4Vxj.562$4m3.208@bignews7.bellsouth.net>, Sanity wrote:
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>>>>> "Amy Blankenship" <Amy_nospam@magnoliamultimedia.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>> "Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
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>>>>>> On Feb 28, 6:07 am, "Sanity" <sanerthan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "1100GS_rider" <bmw110...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>> > Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> there is a law
>>>>>>> >> (not a HOA rule, but an actual city ordinance) which prohibits
>>>>>>> >> leaving
>>>>>>> >> your garage door open longer than necessary. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > That's appalling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can someone enlighten me on something? Unless you are working in your
>>>>>>> garage what is the purpose of leaving a garage door open.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The purpose of keeping your garage open is quite simple.  It's your
>>>>>> garage and you should be able to do as you want.  The purpose of
>>>>>> keeping your door open is that it is your right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amy started another post says "What ever happened to property
>>>>>> rights".  Well, this is exactly what happened.  Somebody thought they
>>>>>> knew what was better for you than you knew yourself, so they stopped
>>>>>> you from doing it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It isn't appalling that someone leaves their garage open.  It's
>>>>>> appalling that someone would think that they have the right to tell
>>>>>> you to close it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for "not longer than necessary"; I'd love to see the definition of
>>>>>> "necessary".  I think I'd find a reason to keep it open for weeks at a
>>>>>> time.
>>>>>> ------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've got to disagree with you.  The purpose of a HOA is so that people
>>>>>> who like to be told what to do and tell others what to do can live 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> like-minded people.  They all agreed to it, so if that floats their
>>>>>> boat...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't get me wrong. There are a lot of things that are bad with HOA's. 
>>>>> A
>>>>> Nazi on the board can make your life miserable. However saying that,
>>>>> there
>>>>> are quite a few things that are good. Everyone's lawn is kept mown.
>>>>> Driveways clean. Houses painted in acceptable colors. Now, if HOA's are
>>>>> so
>>>>> bad see how their value is kept better than a stand alone house in many
>>>>> cases.
>>>>> I live in an HOA. This is my 3rd. I knew what I was getting into when I
>>>>> bought the house. I carefully read the covenants and nothing about them
>>>>> irritated me. The builder has some small sites right down the road 
>>>>> where
>>>>> he
>>>>> could put one house on each.   The exact home in my development is 
>>>>> worth
>>>>> 30-40000 more than the stand alones. Why? Everything is perfectly
>>>>> maintained
>>>>> here, no pickups on the lawns, pleasant color scheme, etc.
>>>>> I found in my 3 HOA experiences, the ones that bitched the most are the
>>>>> ones
>>>>> that didn't read the covenants before purchasing. Whose fault was that?
>>>>
>>>> No retired people with nothing better to do than complain about anything
>>>> and everything? The flowers aren't the right color, the such and such
>>>> work was done wrong, such and such has to be done, the board is full of
>>>> morons, so and so's grass is 3mm too long, so and so's car looks bad, so
>>>> and so's dog is 3lbs too heavy, etc etc endlessly on and on..... I find
>>>> that hard to believe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That's bullsh-t.  It's not that bad. Have you ever lived in an HOA?
>>
>> My experiences are from being on a condo board. I cannot believe the sort
>> of people I've dealt with are any better if they are living in house
>> where there is an HOA.

> 
> Condos are 1000 times worse than HOA's. Yes, you have your bitchers and 
> moaners but in the main most people were ok. I was president of the board 
> for one year. We had one board member that thought he was Saddam Hussein. He 
> tried to make everyone miserable within the first few weeks he was on the 
> board. I called an emergency meeting and we fired him from the board. 

IME the worst people wouldn't bother with being on the board. They enjoy 
complaining. Never really had much of a problem with other board members. 
Although it was fun pointing the complainers to the empty board seats and 
then having them shut up :)  It would spoil their favorite sport to be on 
the board....