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Article #9332Re: Best Buy Treated Me Like a Thief
From: trent
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:27
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:27
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Al wrote: > > John A. Weeks III wrote: > > In article <cYOdnSNXmerXXiDenZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@comcast.com>, > > David Chesler <chesler@post.harvard.edu> wrote: > > > > > >>John A. Weeks III wrote: > >> > >>> The weight of facts in favor of > >>>the store owning the item is far greater than the weight of the > >>>facts of the perpetrator owning the item. > >> > >> Possession is 9/10 of the law. It is undisputed that OP had > >>the item when he was on the returns line. > > > > > > If that is your idea of law, then how would you propose to > > prosecute shoplifting? If all I have to do is take an item > > and it becomes mine, then that gives a whole new meaning to > > shopping. I never have to pay for anything again. > > > > > >> Under the old common law what they did was not theft, although in > >>some cases it might be barritry, or consignment, or unlawful disposal > >>of goods lawfully obtained, or illegal conversion, all of which have > >>been crimes for a long time. I don't know the statutes in MN, but > >>most likely all forms of taking what isn't yours are larceny. > > > > > > I don't think anyone disputes that. The dispute is who owned > > the property--the store or the perpatrator. > > > > > >>> As a result, the store > >>>should keep their item unless the perpetrator can prove otherwise. > >> > >> "Should" is interesting. Is that "should" as in "will maximize their > >>profits, because they'll piss off some customers, only some of whom > >>will make a stink, but they'll catch more would-be thieves this way"? > > > > > > It is worth pissing off a few customers to pervent retail theft. > > Consider that if a typical customer buys a typical $1000 item, > > the store might earn $50 in profit. Yes, margins are that thin > > on stuff like computers and TV's. If a thief takes a typical > > $1000 item, the store is out $950 for the cost of the item. > > That makes the loss of one item cost the same as the profit from > > 19 customers. You also need to factor in the heard-like mentality > > of the great masses--if you catch a few high profile shoplifters > > and make a bit of news, everyone hears about it, which tends to > > help keep the honest people honest. > > > > -john- > > > > This thread is the best troll ever. You folks have way too much time on > your hands. What if the guy had an actual problem? LOL We are merely here for your entertainment. trent -- "This user has a pattern of behaviour in the usenet group chi.forsale that borders on abusive."
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