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zeez wrote

> A friend of mine told me a few months ago about a sober-living
> faculty in Los Angeles, CA which the tenants pay rent to stay in
> which, among other things, include mandatory searches of the
> apartments with drug sniffing dogs! Personally, I think the whole
> housing market is one big shit fest con game, but even I think this
> is over the top, but I know she does not lie about stuff like this.

> Is this legal?

Corse its legal if they sign up for that.

> Can contracts override the Constitution?

The constitution is silent on that particular question and that restriction
in the constitution only applys to what govt can do anyway. 

In article 
<1737434d-1673-4326-a5ee-d0281453fd37@m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
 zeez <blinkingblythe01@gmail.com> wrote:

>  A friend of mine told me a few months ago about a sober-living
> faculty in Los Angeles, CA which the tenants pay rent to stay in
> which, among other things, include mandatory searches of the
> apartments with drug sniffing dogs! Personally, I think the whole
> housing market is one big shit fest con game, but even I think this is
> over the top, but I know she does not lie about stuff like this. Is
> this legal? Can contracts override the Constitution?


Where does the Constitution say you can't search an apartment with drug 
sniffing dogs?

> > A friend of mine told me a few months ago about a sober-living
> > faculty in Los Angeles, CA which the tenants pay rent to stay in
> > which, among other things, include mandatory searches of the
> > apartments with drug sniffing dogs! Personally, I think the whole
> > housing market is one big shit fest con game, but even I think this
> > is over the top, but I know she does not lie about stuff like this.
> > Is this legal?
>
> Corse its legal if they sign up for that.
>
> > Can contracts override the Constitution?
>
> The constitution is silent on that particular question and that restriction
> in the constitution only applys to what govt can do anyway.

That's what happens when you "privatize everything."

You lose your constitutional rights.


Bret Cahill

In our last episode,
<1737434d-1673-4326-a5ee-d0281453fd37@m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, the
lovely and talented zeez broadcast on alt.politics:

>  A friend of mine told me a few months ago about a sober-living
> faculty in Los Angeles,

Sober-living faculty in Los Angeles?  I very much doubt it.

> CA which the tenants pay rent to stay in which, among other things,
> include mandatory searches of the apartments with drug sniffing dogs! 
> Personally, I think the whole housing market is one big shit fest con
> game, but even I think this is over the top, but I know she does not lie
> about stuff like this.  Is this legal?  Can contracts override the
> Constitution?

There is no constitutional protection against landlord entry and searches
with drug-sniffing dogs.  So if this is a private facility, the constitution
has nothing to do with it.  When the landlord can enter and what he or his
agents can do is up to the lease contract.  People who wish to live in a
drug- and alcohol-free environment would presumably be willing to accept a
contract that allows enforcement of such a policy.  If you don't like the
rules, don't move in there.

Pretty obviously, government-run treatment facilities can enforce such
rules, just as they can enforce them in prisons and other forms of mental
health facilities.  Those rules apply to people who might be voluntarily
committed to such facilities or to people committed by a court or as a
condition of probation.

Of course it is legal. 

-- 
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            302 days since Rick Warren prayed over Bush's third term.
  Obama: No hope, no change, more of the same. Yes, he can, but no, he won't.

zeez wrote:
>  A friend of mine told me a few months ago about a sober-living
> faculty in Los Angeles, CA which the tenants pay rent to stay in
> which, among other things, include mandatory searches of the
> apartments with drug sniffing dogs! Personally, I think the whole
> housing market is one big shit fest con game, but even I think this is
> over the top, but I know she does not lie about stuff like this. Is
> this legal? Can contracts override the Constitution?

Damn right they can.

If you sigh yer John Hancock to a contract that forks over yer rights
against unreasonable searches and seizures in exchange for sober
neighbors, you better be prepared for a midnight knock at the door.


-- 

When asked, years afterward, why his charge at Gettysburg failed,
General Pickett said: "I've always thought the Yankees had something to
do with it."

> 
> That's what happens when you "privatize everything."
> 
> You lose your constitutional rights.
> 
> 
> Bret Cahill
> 

What constitutional right was lost?  This sounds like an HOA type of
arrangement (the rental version, at least), with some peculiar rules
enforced. Legal and constitutional.  If you don't like it, don't live
there.  -Dave