🚀 go-pugleaf

yes they could have done the raid in a private school too, had the principal
invited them in to do it ( as is the case in the S.C. school) the difference
is that in a private school the principal would have to answer to angery
parents.
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> They could have done this raid in a private school too.
>
>
> "rex" <rexy@ij.net> wrote in message
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> > As an attorney, I believe that government schools should be
> unconstitutional
> > under the Fourth Amendment ban of unreasonable searches. The recent
> > police-state raid in Goose Creek, South Carolina is another in the
growing
> > list of proofs (with more at http://rexcurry.net).
> >
> > Government schools have a special exemption under the 4th Amendment, a
> > lowered standard that promotes police-state raids. A raid was caught on
> > videotape when gun-toting police burst into a high school, ordering
> students
> > to lie flat on their stomachs in hall ways as they searched for drugs on
> > Nov. 7, 2003. Police handcuffed anyone who apparently didn't comply
> quickly
> > enough. The tape showed police waving their guns and searching lockers.
> >
> > Worse still, the media reports that the school maintains constant video
> > surveillance of students through various cameras available to police.
> >
> > During my legal career, parents have asked me if it is wise (or
> > constitutional) for government to control everyone's education.
> >
> > Government schools create milquetoasts in the same way that Cuban
schools
> > create socialists. That is why parents leave their own children in
> > government schools with constant video surveillance and police-state
> > tactics. Government schools in the U.S. are different only in degree
from
> > schools in the former U.S.S.R.
> >
> > The 4th amendment should be improved to specifically include "schools"
> with
> > the same high standard given to homes. Of course, the only real solution
> is
> > to end government schools. Many parents have already rescued their
> children
> > from government schools in favor of the many better alternatives.
> >
> > The U.S. did not have government schools when the Fourth (and First)
> > Amendment was written. If the authors of the Constitution had foreseen
the
> > government's education monstrosity then the Fourth Amendment would have
> > included government schools, and the First Amendment would have banned
> > Congress from the establishment of religion and education.
> >
> > The Constitution should be amended to include "education" next to
> > "religion." The separation of school and state is as important as the
> > separation of church and state. And for the same ideological reasons.
The
> > proposed constitutional amendment is discussed in detail at
> > http://rexcurry.net .
> >
> > Even if an excuse could be made for the initial creation of some
> government
> > schools, their ongoing existence is proof of their ongoing failure to
> > educate people to handle their own (or their childrens') educations
> without
> > government schools.
> >
> > The Post And Courier newspaper in Charleston reports that Goose Creek
high
> > school is one of the largest in the state with 2,760 students. It has an
> > academic reputation as one of the Low country's best. But that doesn't
> show
> > from the subservient comments of the students and parents.
> >
> > The media reported that "the commando-style raid has parents questioning
> the
> > wisdom of police tactics." It is sad that no media reported that the
raid
> > has parents questioning the wisdom of government schools. And that is
more
> > proof that government schools are dangerous and must end.
> >
> > A media outlet reported that a parent said "I was just upset knowing
they
> > had guns put to their head and a K9 was barking at them and about to
bite
> > somebody. It was awful." Only through years of government schooling can
a
> > parent say such a statement and not announce that she is withdrawing her
> > student from government schools. She did not even question the
> > constitutionality of government schools per se.
> >
> > As if that weren't bad enough, the media reports that parents and
students
> > are already aware, and have done nothing about, the school's constant
> video
> > surveillance available to police. The paper quoted a law enforcement
> officer
> > as saying that he watched school surveillance tapes from four days that
> > showed students congregating under various cameras, allegedly to avoid
> being
> > filmed. "They know where the cameras are. If they stand directly under
> them,
> > the camera's don't look directly down," the law enforcement officer told
a
> > paper.
> >
> > The 4th amendment states "The right of the people to be secure in their
> > persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and
> > seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon
> > probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly
> > describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be
> > seized."
> >
> > Police didn't find any criminals in the armed sweep nor any drugs. Goose
> > Creek police and school administrators defended the draconian measures
as
> > necessary for crime prevention.
> >
> > For other reasons why government schools are unconstitutional see
> >
> > http://rexcurry.net
> >
> > and
> >
> > http://members.ij.net/rex/schoolsmain.html
> >
> > (For more ideas on liberty and libertarianism see
> http://members.ij.net/rex
> > and http://rexcurry.net from Rex Curry at rexy@ij.net or
> > ecurry@interaccess.net or rexatious@hotmail.com).
> >
> >
> >
> >
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