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Re: government schools are now prisons

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From: Bob LeChevalier
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:01
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"rex" <rexy@ij.net> wrote:
>"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:wMFtb.31778$Hb3.11180@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...
>> "joe" <joebird_11@netzero.com> wrote in message
>> news:bp6qhi$13sp$1@news.wplus.net...
>> > yes they could have done the raid in a private school too, had the
>> principal
>> > invited them in to do it ( as is the case in the S.C. school) the
>> difference
>> > is that in a private school the principal would have to answer to angery
>> > parents.
>>
>> Don't public school principals have to answer to parents too? Or at least
>to
>> the school board, who the parents elected?
>
>That is the classic reasoning of totalitarian socialism.

Not really.  Totalitarians would not care whether the principals are
answerable to anyone except the totalitarian power.

>If the issue is
>education, food, clothing, shelter, TV, widgets or any goods or services,
>then a freedom advocate will point out how people provide for needs in a
>free market economy, and the response of the classic totalitarian socialist
>is that everything that people have in a free society can be provided by a
>totalitarian government because "Don't government providers have to answer
>to citizens too? Or at least to the provider board, who the citizens elect?"

Therefore the argument is valid to justify neither a totalitarian
socialist government nor a totally free market approach, since it does
not distinguish.

>It is frightening how commonplace that response has become and how the
>people who provide that response to one subject (e.g. schools) NEVER OPENLY
>expand the response as was done in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics,
>Communist China, the National Socialist German Workers Party, Cuba, etc.
>It is as if the people who use that simplistic response do not know all the
>horrible ideologies that have used that same response.   Very frightening.

Even horrible ideologies do some things properly, or they would never
manage to stay in power long enough to be seen as horrible.

Your argument is fallacious.

On the other hand a "free market economy" hasn't existed since the
world was confined to primitive barter systems (if even then), so it
has even less stature in the modern world than a horrible ideology.
Libertarianism is thus a worse-than-horrible ideology, it is a
seemingly impossible one.

lojbab
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lojbab                                             lojbab@lojban.org
Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group
(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
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