🚀 go-pugleaf

Yes, You airheaded, spoiled brat leftist nitwits think any form of personal
resonsibility, any notion of personal duty to your country, is a violation
of your childish "civil rights."

You don't like authority in any form, do you? You prefer to sit on your lazy
butts and collect taypayer funded benefits, right?

Well, just maybe the world is changing. You might actually have to support
yourselves! Maybe, no one will think of you as their pets!
"joe" <joebird_11@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:bp6qhi$13sp$1@news.wplus.net...
> yes they could have done the raid in a private school too, had the
principal
> invited them in to do it ( as is the case in the S.C. school) the
difference
> is that in a private school the principal would have to answer to angery
> parents.
> "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2xytb.23659$jL1.20891@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com...
> > They could have done this raid in a private school too.
> >
> >
> > "rex" <rexy@ij.net> wrote in message
> news:3fb64961_6@corp.newsgroups.com...
> > > As an attorney, I believe that government schools should be
> > unconstitutional
> > > under the Fourth Amendment ban of unreasonable searches. The recent
> > > police-state raid in Goose Creek, South Carolina is another in the
> growing
> > > list of proofs (with more at http://rexcurry.net).
> > >
> > > Government schools have a special exemption under the 4th Amendment, a
> > > lowered standard that promotes police-state raids. A raid was caught
on
> > > videotape when gun-toting police burst into a high school, ordering
> > students
> > > to lie flat on their stomachs in hall ways as they searched for drugs
on
> > > Nov. 7, 2003. Police handcuffed anyone who apparently didn't comply
> > quickly
> > > enough. The tape showed police waving their guns and searching
lockers.
> > >
> > > Worse still, the media reports that the school maintains constant
video
> > > surveillance of students through various cameras available to police.
> > >
> > > During my legal career, parents have asked me if it is wise (or
> > > constitutional) for government to control everyone's education.
> > >
> > > Government schools create milquetoasts in the same way that Cuban
> schools
> > > create socialists. That is why parents leave their own children in
> > > government schools with constant video surveillance and police-state
> > > tactics. Government schools in the U.S. are different only in degree
> from
> > > schools in the former U.S.S.R.
> > >
> > > The 4th amendment should be improved to specifically include "schools"
> > with
> > > the same high standard given to homes. Of course, the only real
solution
> > is
> > > to end government schools. Many parents have already rescued their
> > children
> > > from government schools in favor of the many better alternatives.
> > >
> > > The U.S. did not have government schools when the Fourth (and First)
> > > Amendment was written. If the authors of the Constitution had foreseen
> the
> > > government's education monstrosity then the Fourth Amendment would
have
> > > included government schools, and the First Amendment would have banned
> > > Congress from the establishment of religion and education.
> > >
> > > The Constitution should be amended to include "education" next to
> > > "religion." The separation of school and state is as important as the
> > > separation of church and state. And for the same ideological reasons.
> The
> > > proposed constitutional amendment is discussed in detail at
> > > http://rexcurry.net .
> > >
> > > Even if an excuse could be made for the initial creation of some
> > government
> > > schools, their ongoing existence is proof of their ongoing failure to
> > > educate people to handle their own (or their childrens') educations
> > without
> > > government schools.
> > >
> > > The Post And Courier newspaper in Charleston reports that Goose Creek
> high
> > > school is one of the largest in the state with 2,760 students. It has
an
> > > academic reputation as one of the Low country's best. But that doesn't
> > show
> > > from the subservient comments of the students and parents.
> > >
> > > The media reported that "the commando-style raid has parents
questioning
> > the
> > > wisdom of police tactics." It is sad that no media reported that the
> raid
> > > has parents questioning the wisdom of government schools. And that is
> more
> > > proof that government schools are dangerous and must end.
> > >
> > > A media outlet reported that a parent said "I was just upset knowing
> they
> > > had guns put to their head and a K9 was barking at them and about to
> bite
> > > somebody. It was awful." Only through years of government schooling
can
> a
> > > parent say such a statement and not announce that she is withdrawing
her
> > > student from government schools. She did not even question the
> > > constitutionality of government schools per se.
> > >
> > > As if that weren't bad enough, the media reports that parents and
> students
> > > are already aware, and have done nothing about, the school's constant
> > video
> > > surveillance available to police. The paper quoted a law enforcement
> > officer
> > > as saying that he watched school surveillance tapes from four days
that
> > > showed students congregating under various cameras, allegedly to avoid
> > being
> > > filmed. "They know where the cameras are. If they stand directly under
> > them,
> > > the camera's don't look directly down," the law enforcement officer
told
> a
> > > paper.
> > >
> > > The 4th amendment states "The right of the people to be secure in
their
> > > persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches
and
> > > seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon
> > > probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly
> > > describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be
> > > seized."
> > >
> > > Police didn't find any criminals in the armed sweep nor any drugs.
Goose
> > > Creek police and school administrators defended the draconian measures
> as
> > > necessary for crime prevention.
> > >
> > > For other reasons why government schools are unconstitutional see
> > >
> > > http://rexcurry.net
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > http://members.ij.net/rex/schoolsmain.html
> > >
> > > (For more ideas on liberty and libertarianism see
> > http://members.ij.net/rex
> > > and http://rexcurry.net from Rex Curry at rexy@ij.net or
> > > ecurry@interaccess.net or rexatious@hotmail.com).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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