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Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
> Bob LeChevalier wrote:
> >
> > "Comm" <no@spam.com> wrote:
> > >What the hey?  See in.
> > >
> > >"Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote in message
> > >news:koqdg11r0oiuiajksgl98ue8d12rli7ukd@4ax.com...
> > >> "Comm" <no@spam.com> wrote:
> > >>>"Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote in message
> > >>>news:ro5ef1dtm1sanutvfp9vcmol1321a9q2mm@4ax.com...
> > >>>>>The problem with that is that by the time about a year goes by for
> > >>>>>anyone
> > >>>>>to
> > >>>>>learn "first year ebonics" the language of ebonics will have
> > >>>>>significantly
> > >>>>>CHANGED.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> As I said, nobody is learning "first year ebonics", since nobody is
> > >>>> teaching it.
> > >>>
> > >>>I haven't read the entire LONGwinded thread, heh.  Just saw this post from
> > >>>you.  I know nobody's teaching it.  But how could anyone teach a language
> > >>>that changes so fast?
> > >>
> > >> Who is teaching the language?
> > >
> > >I have no idea IF it's being taught.
> >
> > No one has yet posted information about an Ebonic program that was
> > intended to "teach the language".  The idea is to inform the
> > *teachers* as to what the differences between Black English Vernacular
> > and the academic standard language, so that the *teachers* can
> > understand what the students are saying and when an error might be due
> > to the nonstandard language rather than failure to understand the
> > concepts, in which case the job of the teacher is *different*.
>
> So, it appears that Ebonics is actually being taught. Not to the
> students, but to the teachers. Maybe it isn't being taught to them in
> the same way one would teach a foreign language, where the goal is to
> make the 'student' fluent in the language.
>
> > When a
> > foreigner makes a mistake, the teacher likely will recognize the
> > difference between a conceptual misunderstanding and a language error,
> > but that is far less likely with a native speaker, especially one
> > speaking a dialect that is so much derided.  The teachers also tend to
> > have the same misconceptions about the nature of the differences as
> > the racists who post obviously phony "ebonics talk".
>
> So, why don't we have similar programs for some of the white dialects?
> The problems are very much similar in that teachers often can't
> understand some of the 'dumb hillbilly' talk and just write the speakers
> off as backward hicks. On the other hand, some teachers do attempt to
> work through their students communications problems, but in the case of
> the various white dialects, the approach seems to be the same. That is,
> to reinforce the students' use of 'standard english'. Why is Ebonics
> different?

Because white liberals appearing to be the allies of black nationalists
is politically expedient for both.